Thanks to everyone for you suggestions. I had planned on just laying the track right on the ground with a strip of landscape fabric underneather it with the ballast added to that. But with all of you suggestions I'm now reconsdiering that idea and am looking at either using the conduit to attach the track to or the ladder method. I had tried the ladder method once before on a much smaller and tighter layout and really got frustrated with it but this time I have much larger curves and more straight areas so it could work out fine. We'll see..... /DesktopModules/NTForums/themes/mls/emoticons/w00t.gif