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OK, I have started already with the plans printed for the coaches.

Two coaches, one first class with no divider in the middle (unless I decide to put a "smoker" somewhere inside) with "American chairs" and a Second/Third class with longitudinal benches (padded for second and wooden for third).

The full baggage has caused some consternation as there are no published scale plans (i.e. from David Fletcher, 'cause I'm the only idiot to attempt this by hand).

My solution, and you're welcome to it if you are as mad as me, my full baggage is a converted passenger coach! So I printed out the side plans for the 1880's coach and drew my doors on top.

Now, David has been thinking of us idiots when he designed these plans and the end part of each layer is a little longer than the next so that each layer overlaps the layer underneath to maintain the strength.

I set my doors at 120mm from each end. I drew the doors on top of the outside layer and then the middle layer which is a solid layer unlike the coaches. The inside layers are slightly different in that the doors are 5mm narrower on each side. SO the inside 2mm layer door is 125mm from the end and the doorway is 10mm narrower. That is the whole deal.

If you want to make the baggage coach 35 feet long as David suggests, then cut and paste to fit.

I have pasted up the patterns for all of the 2mm sides and ends - 8 sheets of styrene. I need another 5 sheets for the floors and then 7 sheets for the 1mm layers including doors and windows.

I have learned (I hope) from the combine build and I will pass on the contrasts as they occur.

Here endeth the first lesson:D
 

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G'day,

I lost all of that description and photos last night, now i don't seem able to find the resized photos. Oh well.

To summarise, I bought the rest of the styrene sheets that I will need and continued pasting up the plans onto the sheets. So far i have spent A$105.80 on this project but that includes screws etc that will not be needed for a while. Still to buy are items like brass rod and tube for rails and braces, strip styrene for window sills, battens, 1/4 rounds and the like. I estimate a total cost for the 3 coaches at A$200 +/-.

Today I finished the paste-up and started cutting!



Imagine another 11 sheets like that!

I have already reduced 4 of them to prepared blanks ready to have the edges finished to size on my new belt/disc sander. The inside 2mm layers of the passenger coaches are cut as are the inside layers of the ends and the top parts of the middle layers of the ends.

A note on the middle layers. These parts are essentially a header and footer with narrow vertical strips between them. I find it easiest and most economical to cut the tops and bottoms and then glue up the verticals in situ on the back of the outside layer, from strip styrene.

OK
Good night
Tim
 

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Hi Tim.

Wow that's a lot of sheets to cut by hand. Please try to keep the photos comming. Good luck with your project.

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Thank you for taking the time to share your experience with us. I will be watching and learning!

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G'day,

Monday update:

I have prepared the inside 2mm layer for one of the coaches ready to cut out the windows. 2 1/2 hours with my knife cutting around the window lines, six firm strokes per line will allow me to snap the triangles out once I have cut the diagonals with my jewellers saw.



Above you can see the 2mm pieces. The end parts have already had the corners of windows and doors drilled. the diagonal lines are guides for the jewellers saw.

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G'day again,

I have slowed down a little on this project as I have been called back out of retirement.

I am a minority share-holder in a finance company and retired from the position of "Loan Manager" 18 months ago due to my health but kept over sight of all transactions. Long story short: money out - no money back, up by 212% in 3 months! If the default rate exceeds 5.2% a flag comes up - how about 6.1%?

So I am again a productive member of society. Plays **** with my model time, except that I am taking a set of blanks etc to the office with me to work on in the quiet times as I am performing no other function than "Loan Manager".

At this moment I have cut all of the wall parts for the 2 coaches except for the middle layers. Inside layers of sides parts A, B, and C 2mm thick, and the corresponding 1mm outside layer parts as well. I have scored the window openings ready for drilling, sawing and then "snapping out" on all of those parts.

Began tonight on the baggage coach and have both ends and one side, inner and middle layer, rough cut.

For those of you who are following along, I have spent A$320.86 on styrene and other parts that I will need. The time spent so far is: 22Hr : 40min or $106.95 per car and a time expenditure of 7Hr : 13min. It is probably realistic to double the dollar expense and then add in the cost of wheels. The time factor will probably be more like 5 or 6 (optimisticaly)

I suppose that I am saying that you will save no money by cutting these yourselves unless, like me the cost doubles as soon as you import the kit.

If you just enjoy the making as I do, then cut away!

Thanks all,
Tim
 

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Glad to hear you are still making progress, Tim. I hope to do the same thing sometime soon, but with wood. Quite a daunting project.
Keep us posted!

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Thanks for the updates and detailed cost and time keeping.
I've got other things on my plate at the moment, but will include this thread in my printer friendly files when Shad gets that feature going.
 

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Thanks for the interest Matt and Don.

Matt I'm interested in the techniques that you plan to use. I find the score and snap method so easy, especially for items like windows, that the thought of hand sawing all the windows - twice - from a sheet of ply is daunting.

I view projects such as this as just a series of small jobs that get done one at a time until the project is finished. Thus I have cut all the rough blanks of the inner layers and then all the rough blanks for the outer layers. The window openings and doors have all been scored ready for snapping out, the top corners have been drilled for sawing diagonals as have the end doors.

I am interested to hear from you all as to the level of detail that will be usefull to you regarding the actual techniques that I use to achieve the results. So chime in some of you who are "just looking", give me your thoughts.

A challenge that has appeared in the last day or two as I score the 2mm sheets is that the pieces want to curve up as though they have been rolled up at some time. My first thought to correct this is to lay pieces together with opposing curls, a real challenge given that my middle layer is intended to be built up, not a solid piece.

Don, I'm glad that you think this may be usefull.

I'll be back after the weekend with some progress photos (I hope).

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G'day all,

Sorry to have gone missing on you so sudenly, but apparently I've been walking around on a broken right hip for the last three months. Had a whole right hip replacement done just over a week ago and am progressing well, just can't do any cutting etc at the moment.

I'm going up the country for recuperation until my next specialists appointment in 2 weeks time.

'Till then, keep modeling.

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Hi Tim,

Boy your just full of suprises, hope you have a speedy recovery.
Take care and let us know how things are going.

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Glad to hear you are doing okay, Tim.
All our thoughts and prayers will be with you!

Keep us posted when you are up to modelling again. Until then, we'lll be waiting...


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OK,

Saw the orthopaedic surgeon yesterday.

Looks like it may be quite awhile before I can continue this project. The piece of bone that they cut from my femur during the hip replacement was riddled with a secondary cancer.

Apparently, what is left of my lungs have a shadow and the blood tests indicate possible involvement of the liver as well (I know that it hurts around my middle!).

As I do not have private health cover, I am being treated through our public health system, mostly very, very good but some times slow. I will have a full body CT scan next Thursday and see the cancer specialists on Monday 13th and Tuesday 14th for results.

Had to tell the dispersed members of the family yesterday, now I feel as though I've grown 3 horns and the middle one plays dixie! Every body wants to come and see Dad or brother, son, mate or friend, yet I'm no different than I was on Monday!

Sorry if I've depressed anybody but I still don't have 3 horns and my tag line still stands.

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Hi Tim,

Sorry to hear of your manifold troubles, that is serious!

I hope that t your Healthcare service, can deal with it we are thinking of you!

Best of luck on the 13/14th!
 

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Really sorry to hear that, Tim. Thanks for letting us know.
You will be in our thoughts and prayers. Glad you are keeping up your spirits. That's half the battle!



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Well, damn, Tim. That's really not the news you (or we) wanted to hear. Best wishes to you in your upcoming battle. Stay strong and win it!
 
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