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Can anyone tell me what types of locomotives were used in the 1964 movie "The Train" with Burt Lancaster?
Dave Young
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Here are two links to discussions, and a third link to a site that has stills from the film. (You can paste the URLs.)
I don't recognize the locomotives.
They appear to be a prewar design and are almost certainly French (in my view) as the filming took place in outside of Paris in the late 1960s.
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Here are two links to discussions, and a third link to a site that has stills from the film. (You can paste the URLs.)
I don't recognize the locomotives.
They appear to be a prewar design and are almost certainly French (in my view) as the filming took place in outside of Paris in the late 1960s.
cheers
TUL
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Here is the link to the train crash in the movie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmsxtErEVrw
Hope you can find out what engine it is.
One of the comments on the film was that it had to be a French Loco since the film was done in France and during the war the action itself took place there. Hope this helps you Dave the "Coal"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmsxtErEVrw
Hope you can find out what engine it is.
One of the comments on the film was that it had to be a French Loco since the film was done in France and during the war the action itself took place there. Hope this helps you Dave the "Coal"
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Posted By Dave -- Use Coal on 05/09/2008 10:28 AM
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Can anyone tell me what types of locomotives were used in the 1964 movie "The Train" with Burt Lancaster?
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"Steam" is not exactly the answer I was looking for but, granted, it is a correct answer.
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The trailer shows it to be loco "230 B 711", if I read it correctly. The SNCF 230B class is a 4-6-0, which is what the loco appears to be.
http://orion.math.iastate.edu/jdhsmith/term/slfrsncf.htm has a list of SNCF steam locos and a little data on the 230B class.
One of the movie sites notes a blooper in that some of the steam locos in the film are post WWII.
Garrett
http://orion.math.iastate.edu/jdhsmith/term/slfrsncf.htm has a list of SNCF steam locos and a little data on the 230B class.
One of the movie sites notes a blooper in that some of the steam locos in the film are post WWII.
Garrett
RE: "The Train" Locomotives
Looking at a still on the U tube just before the crash ..230B you can see two tail rods below the smokebox and out side cylinders as well so: a 4 cylinder compound,, the "Crampton" steam pipes to the outside High pressure cylinders are there[but look to be without casings. insulation is visible.] cab style and front window shades . 6wheel tender..and two reach rods to the independent high and low pressure valve gears, on the left hand side. most likely a "Est" 4-6-0 mixed traffic built 1901-1912 and in her very final days in 1964!
The loco it hits is avery! old 0-6-0 dating from the 1880s outside cylinders and Stephenson gear as well..France and spain had these in numbers and some lasted a very long time, pottering about in yards.
Looking at a still on the U tube just before the crash ..230B you can see two tail rods below the smokebox and out side cylinders as well so: a 4 cylinder compound,, the "Crampton" steam pipes to the outside High pressure cylinders are there[but look to be without casings. insulation is visible.] cab style and front window shades . 6wheel tender..and two reach rods to the independent high and low pressure valve gears, on the left hand side. most likely a "Est" 4-6-0 mixed traffic built 1901-1912 and in her very final days in 1964!
The loco it hits is avery! old 0-6-0 dating from the 1880s outside cylinders and Stephenson gear as well..France and spain had these in numbers and some lasted a very long time, pottering about in yards.
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I have a DVD copy of the movie. I will take a look to see if it has a copy of the trailer included.
If I read the information in the chart correctly, the engine is the French version of the Prussian P8. Does anyone know if I read this chart correctly?
Dave
If I read the information in the chart correctly, the engine is the French version of the Prussian P8. Does anyone know if I read this chart correctly?
Dave
RE: "The Train" Locomotives
Dave,
The Prussian P8 was a 2 cylinder Simple designed by Garbe. the Est where 4 cylinder Compunds designed by Salomon, but designed for similar duties..two more diffrent designs would be hard to find! if the chart state that, then its an error.
Dave,
The Prussian P8 was a 2 cylinder Simple designed by Garbe. the Est where 4 cylinder Compunds designed by Salomon, but designed for similar duties..two more diffrent designs would be hard to find! if the chart state that, then its an error.
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Thanks for explaining that the locos were compounds; that helps the SCNF table make more sense.
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