"T"-Boilers Need info

Steve and Don:

Many thanks for the website. Not being focussed just now on geared engines, I never thought to try that phrase. Howsumever, having looked well into the site, I find there are a couple of Dinky's that will do nicely for future projects.

I also have another question: the book adverstised on that site (links to Amazon) called Locomotive Building: The Construction of a Steam Engine for Railway Use ~ by Ralph E. Flanders, ca 1911--can either of you recommend it? I'm somewhat versed in steam engine mechanics, but not at all in the 'plumbing'. That book advertises as 'having it all'. I need the basic plumbing--for instance I still have no clear idea what a generic water injector looks like, how it's mechanized to take power from the engine, etc, etc. Also, I'm still foggy on the 'turret' or what I call a 'manifold' that ports steam to various places. It is usually located on the top of the backhead--I'm doing pre-1900 (ca 1875 as a midrange) so all I want and need is the simple arrangements.
Can either of you point me at a pub that has that info? I have a Locomotive Builder's Manual that shows more plumbing than the space shuttle. I learned a good deal from a dwg posted in NavyTech's thread when he was 'bashing up his engine, but missed somehow getting it into my Notes folder.

Thanks again for taking time to post.

Les

RE: "T"-Boilers Need info

don't know how much this will help, but...
Some pics of the c-19 at Knott's with stuff labelled
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j220/jeffsparrow/trzc-19cab1.jpg

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j220/jeffsparrow/trzc-19cab-41.jpg

Then there is Fletch's masterclass on piping....
http://archive.mylargescale.com/articles/masterclass/mc1/mc1-06/const/const01.asp

Injectors and lubricators from different manufacturers often looked different


Penberthy injector
http://i17.ebayimg.com/03/i/000/ff/0d/3bea_1.JPG
http://www.prestonservices.co.uk/Injectors_Penberthy_Section.jpg

Lunkenheimer injector
http://www.steamengine.com.au/steam...enheimer/pics/lunkenheimer-brass-injector.jpg
Garfield injector

http://i4.ebayimg.com/01/i/001/34/53/51d8_1.JPG

Hancock Inspirator
http://i18.ebayimg.com/03/i/001/33/db/fb61_1.JPG


Another inspirator
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...pumpe.jpg/350px-Injektor_Dampfstrahlpumpe.jpg

Early Hydrostatic Lubricator
http://www.ironhorse129.com/Projects/Engines/NPC_21/Hydrostatic_Lube.jpg

Detroit 5A Lubricator
http://www.prestonservices.co.uk/Detroit_Lub_B_152.jpg

Also, the C-19 pics above show a Nathan lubricator

Mik:

You hit a winner with the MC link. Those photos were very good too, even if most of 'em showed me what I won't need--no train brakes, all mechanical. There were still some pieces of info plus a better 'sense' of a backhead. Glad I wasn't a RR enjuneer. Er, hogger?

On the injectors (I haven't, at this writing, gone to the other sites to see about the injectors) where'd the water pressure come from? Well, the feedwater pump, could it be? (No sarcasm, I really don't know). So, where'd the feedwater pump sit and was it mechanically driven, or steam driven--that is, was there a linkage to the engine's wheel linkage, or was a steam-driven pump used? I'm betting the early ones were mechanically linked to something that went up 'n down or 'round and 'round--or back 'n forth.... you get the idea.

Thank you for taking the time to post the data.

Les

Les

In regards to the book you've mentioned, I have no knowledge or experience with that particular book, so I can't directly endorse or condemn it. However, from looking at what they provide in the "Search inside this book" link located just below the image of the book cover, and then looking at what is put forth as the book's "Table of Contents" it sure doesn't seem to cover everything, as far as what's listed it only mentions the "Main Rod." Also on that "Table of Contents" page there is listed "Part 1, Main and Side Rods" and "Number 79."

So in my mind the following questions arise; 1) Does the "Part 1, Main and Side Rods" indicate that Table of Contents listed only reflect a partial listing of a chapter with in the book, or what? or 2) Does the "Number 79" represent that this is the 79th book in a series of books that in total cover all areas of building a steam locomotive?

As to what you referred to as a "generic" water injector. In my experience of looking at various documents depicting various areas of steam locomotives. What I've found is, the only thing that is generic is the concept of what the job of an injector is. What each manufacturer's version physically looks like, just where it's located, and how the pipe connections from the tender to the boiler were laid out. Those particulars are all over map, so to speak. Unless you are speaking of one particular locomotive in a given time frame.

Steve,

Thanks for the opinion. Apparently, our minds view such books with a certain similar cynicism. I have bought many things over the years, all advertised to "have it all!" And yo, did I get 'it' all ... right where--eehhh, let's not go there.

Well, I'm getting closer to starting, and my first effort will be some sort of ancient 0-4-0T, and it wll have the minimal necessary to be at least (hopefully) prototypical.

Les