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I was just wondering if everyone else has the same delays when opening the MLS page. For instance, the first time I logged on today it read either waiting for or loading from ebay-static.com. It took 36 seconds to load the page, and I can't even scroll down the page until completed. The second time I logged on, it read the same thing, but google-something instead. It took 31 seconds to load this time. I'm using up to date Firefox. Does anyone else experience this?

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Yes, I am also noting long load times for MLS.  I have not yet associated it with any particular address, but I have noted, using Task Manager to monitor internet activity, that I am sending more data OUT than I am receiving IN, and that is bothering me.

(Yeah yeah yeah, I know, but I wouldn't be so paranoid if everybody wasn't out to get me.)
 

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RE: Sttartup Delay Due to eBay & Google

That's odd Matt. No delays here. It sounds like you are trying to load up the eBay ads us non 1st class members see then there is a delay as they are filtered out.

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RE: Sttartup Delay Due to eBay & Google

I've seen that google stuff......and folks in Australia are reporting long load times too.
 

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Another part of the emerging symptoms that I've since noticed is that, most always when I've waited long enough, and I simply click the browser's Refresh button the problem will correct itself. Maybe this is an indication of loss of communication sequencing or something, resulting in both sides waiting for the other to take the next step. When in fact it has already been taken and the other side just missed it, thus both sides just sit there and wait.
 

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RE: Sttartup Delay Due to eBay & Google

Check for spybots or hijackers... spybot, ad-aware, a registry cleaner, and careful surfing... nothing wrong with the site...

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THIS HAS ME SERIOUSLY CONCERNED!!!

I am running "SpyBot Search & Destroy" with its resident part, "TeaTimer", and AVAST! antivirus.  I just ran AVAST! 'demand mode' against my whole harddrive in the "Thorough" mode (took 2 hours).  I also just ran XoftSpySE.  None of these programs find anything.

I WOULD LIKE TO ASK "ANYONE" that does not see these delays (or even if you do) to perform the following and post their general results from their experience...

Right-click on the Windows Task Bar and select "Task Manager" from the menu that appears.

In the Task Manager window, click on the "Network" tab at the top.

Click on the View/Select Columns... menu.

Put a check in the checkboxes for: 

Bytes Sent
Bytes Received
Bytes Sent/Interval
Bytes Received/Interval

Then click OK.

Position the Task Manager and Browser windows to be able to see these columns and the Browser at the same time (You can have the Task Manager window at the bottom, [even have the bottom of the Task Manager window off the bottom of the screen] so the line(s) of text showing these columns are at the very bottom of the screen and the browser window set to over lap the top of the Task Manager window... just so the byte counts can be observed as the Browser window is active).  You may also want to adjust the width of the columns to be sure they are wide enough to see the whole counts... (click and drag the dividing line between the column headers).

The "Per Interval" counts will show the number of bytes transmitted and received over the 1 second interval between the Task Manager screen updates.  The other two counts will be the sums of the per Interval counts.(they may include counts that were received before you started the display).

You might want to write down the total counts just to be sure of what you are seeing.  The Per Interval counts will probably update faster than you can scribble them down so just watch them and get a general feel for the ratio of which counts are bigger per interval.

Now open one MLS forum window and watch the byte counts.  Refresh the Browser window and observe the byte counts again. Try other MLS forum pages.

On MY PC, of the Per Interval counts I see the SENT to be sometimes as much as or more than the Received.  I sometimes see counts as high as 40,000 bytes in both columns.

This is a NEW behavior for me to see.  And I watch this stuff almost religiously!  It used to be only a few hundred bytes sent for 40,000 to 50,000 received in one second.  It used to be a 10 or 20  to 1 ratio of Received bytes to Sent bytes (unless I was uploading photos or videos deliberately).

Try the same things while reviewing data from other web sites.  For me, other sites show "elevated" SENT counts from what it used to be, but not nearly as high as what I see on MLS and YouTube.  The other sites I have checked are now running about a 2 to 1 ratio, but MLS and YouTube are closer to 1 to 1 and sometimes slightly more sent than received.

This may be the cause of the slowness we are seeing.  Usually on a home Internet connection the data rate for SENDING is lower than the rate for RECEIVING.  This difference in rates makes sense, because we are usually just sending minimal data to access large volumes of data... i.e.: we send a simple address and receive a whole page with photos, etc.

It kind of appears to me that my PC is sending an address, receiving a whole page with photos and then retransmitting the whole page and photos back to the Internet someplace and this is taking extra time to do the transmit and the page won't display until the whole transaction is done.

I am not saying the problem lies within MLS since I see the same problem with YouTube and some similar problems with other sites, but I am saying that something seems to be definitely different and I think it is "wrong".

HELP!  Anybody?!?!?
 

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Posted By Semper Vaporo on 02/21/2008 10:45 PM

I am not saying the problem lies within MLS since I see the same problem with YouTube and some similar problems with other sites, but I am saying that something seems to be definitely different and I think it is "wrong".


I agree, I don't think there is anything wrong with MLS, per se, I just wonder what is going on between the ads / Google Search and my computer that would tie it up this long.  
It seems to have improved lately, but I don't know yet if it is just sporatic.

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Matt
 

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As I stated above thus far now every time that I've had a hang in loading an MLS screen I've always found 

Opening Page http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/……………..

displayed in the status bar of the browser's window, the pagead2 as far as I can discern is the large ad space found at the bottom center of all MLS forum pages. Additionally, every time I've encountered the problem after clicking the Refresh button and the screen finally displays, when I check the ad that is displayed it always winds up being a Flash type ad. Yes, I have found it to be of an intermittent nature sometimes not occurring for a week or more at other times I've encountered it multiple times within a single day.
 

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RE: Sttartup Delay Due to eBay & Google

Regardless if it is intermittent or not, when I have to hit the friggin' "re-fresh" button more than times than I'd care to count, and the screen STILL has not displayed, it becomes less and less worth my time.
"Oh just bang it around on occasion, it'll start working..."
Bull.
Get rid of the offending ad problem.
And it ain't no better with the new server on line, either...
 

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RE: Sttartup Delay Due to eBay & Google

Every now again I'll get an MLs page that "hangs" and a refresh usually fixes it.

this morning however on signing in to my computer at work I find that I need to update Windows (work requirement to have updates turned on) and so I waited thru that interval.

THEN I starte surfing the web and try to access MLS while waiting for a drawing to load. It hangs and hangs and hangs. Doens't matter if I refresh or not. Then suddenly it clears up. No problems since.

We'll see what tomorrow brings though.

Chas

P.S. Charles McC ~ I did what you asked and was getting about a third the rates you were seeing at 12:58 pm EST.
 

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Duncan,  Is it on every page load, or is it only when certain ads appear..  Like image or flash ads like Steve is saying?  If I disable image ads, would that help?
 

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I am still getting pages that NEVER load (I've waited over an hour!).  I have to close the window/tab and reselect the topic from the forum list and usually the second try completes, but sometimes I have to do it again.  

Frustrating?... yes!  

Insurmountable?... no. 

Enough trouble to make me go away?... not yet.
 

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Shad,
I'll take a look if it happens again.
I did take a screen shot of one of this mornings "sessions" that I'll forward to you.
I haven't  looked in the past, as I figured that what ever ad was hanging up the works had cycled out of the display order, hence whatever showed at the bottom was not the culprit.
That's just the way my thinking went...
Anyway, mail is sent...

And just as a side thought, I would presume that image ads would be adding to the load time (even oh broadband/high speed/T?)
 

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Trying to load the "How often do wheels have to be changed?" thread in the "Railroad Operations" forum.

It has been sitting for 20 minutes with the following line showing in the status line of IE-7 at the bottom:

(2 items remaining) Waiting for http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/ads?client=ca-pub-05230270

(I have sometimes seen a line like that, that I feel is truncated because the status line window is not long enough to contain the whole thing; I cannot tell if this one is cut off or not.)

I went back to the Active Topics List and re-selected the same topic and it came up in about 20 seconds.  (The original tab I have open to that topic is still hung and now it has been close to 30 minutes.)  The new tab is open and shows a Google ad at the bottom that lists 3 vendors: Discounted Model Trains (www . hobbylinc . com), Retail Scale Sale (www . ToplineDigitalScales . com), and Archetetural Models (www . RedeyeARC . com).  But that doesn't mean that is the ad that is hung on the other tab.
 

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RE: Sttartup Delay Due to eBay & Google

Charles

If you haven't done it as yet, just click the browser window's refresh button and I bet it will complete the action. Once it has displayed the topic screen, then scroll down to the bottom to the ad area in the middle and right click for the properties select that and click. See if you get the normal properties page displayed or a different one about Adobe flash.
 

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RE: Sttartup Delay Due to eBay & Google

That has not helped. I have also tried clicking the "Stop" (red "X") button and that will not affect it, and neither does a "refresh" afterward. I can click the "X" on the tab to close it and it goes away right away.

I'd try right clicking on an ad if one comes up, but one never shows up on the tab that is hung.
 

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Charles

From what you've said about "tab" do I take that you are using FireFox as your browser. If that's true I haven't tried working with the error/hang with other than MS/IE v6.0.2800 SP1 and MS/Win2K v5.00.2195 SP4, which the procedure works for me. I'll have to try to catch it happening while I'm using FireFox and see what happens.
 

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RE: Sttartup Delay Due to eBay & Google

Nope, I use IE-7 version 7.0.5730.11

edit: Windows XP Professional
Build 2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.070227-2254 (Service Pack 2)

And I have Auto Update turned on (but it only downloads and then tells me about it so I KNOW when it is doing the update).

Got a mass of updates just yesterday.
 
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