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I’m planning to use 5/32” piping to feed each 1/2”clylinder. The pipe from the throttle will be 3/16” and split in the smoke box to 5/32” for each cylinder, will this be sufficient?

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Hi Reed,
Assuming you are talking about outside diameter, these numbers are very close to what Accucraft uses on their two cylinder Shays. I think it would be sufficient.
Make sure your throttle is not too restricitve as it could become a bottle neck...
 

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5/32" I assume os the thin walled K&S tubing? Sounds like they will get plenty of steam from the 3/16" main throttle. Is this a scratchbuild or a rebuild?
 

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Posted By Reed on 06/18/2008 5:05 PM
I’m planning to use 5/32” piping to feed each 1/2”clylinder. The pipe from the throttle will be 3/16” and split in the smoke box to 5/32” for each cylinder, will this be sufficient?
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Unless you are building a racing engine, 3/32" will be quite large enough - as well as being easier to benmd to shape.

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Speaking of bending: Try the 5/32" benders from Dubro, available in hobby shops. They are easy to use and make beautiful bends without kinks. They are around $13.00.
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Accucraft steam pipe is 3mm OD = 0.181" (1/8" OD = 0.125") and is standard for there locos I have or know of. Cross sectional area of 3/16" OD (4.97mm) is nearly 3x Accucraft 3mm OD (19.4mm vs 7.1mm CSA). How big a steam pipe is needed for 1/2" cylinders? Maybe someone knows about the fluid mechanics and deminishing returns.

Does it depend on Dry Pipe OD as the limiting factor? Accucraft's dry pipe is 3mm, a big steam pipe doesn't have much effect beyond 1/8" from what I have read and been told.
 

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To answer a couple of the questions asked, I’m scratch building a #1 gauge 2-4-0. The boiler is completed and tested and will coal fired. The dry pipe is 3/16” to the throttle and also 3/16” from the throttle to the smoke box. The in the passages in the cylinders are .104 (#37) drill which is the same ID as 5/32” copper pipe. The more I looked at the holes smaller they seemed to be. Then I was studying the pictures of k5pat’s pictures of the S2 he is building and steam pipes looked huge compared to mine. So I thought I would ask.
When Mike (Shaymaker) suggested 3/32” it dawned on me that the 1” engine I completed in 1979 and run the wheel off of it has 1 1/4” cylinders only has ¼” piping from the steam dome to the steam chests and it was never in need of more steam.
I’m going to use 1/8” pipe in the smoke box; it will a lot easier to install and leave more room for sweeping the flues. If it’s big enough for Accucraft it will work for me.
Thank you all for your suggestions.
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Posted By insanerocketkid on 06/19/2008 3:21 PM
Accucraft steam pipe is 3mm OD, 0.118" (not 0.181" as stated). Just thought I'd help clarify.
Mike




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I do have some pictures, but it will take me a few days. My son has to put them on a web page for me.

Thanks for you interest.

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Here are some pictures of my project; the two of the locomotive were posted a while back. Since then I was a few hours from running on air but I was unhappy with the cylinder arrange and decided to make to new ones including steam chests and rear heads. The other picture is my quarting jig.

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