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Alas, the mallet has shown up, let the building begin !!!
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I've dragged out the roll around table and have started to look thru my parts boxes.
I'll still need Bachmann spectrum cab details AND I'll pay good hard CASH to get them too.
So soon I should be starting and pictures will be put up daily/nightly as work progresses.

As far as I know, all the Q-2s were oil burners. most if not all -2,-3 or -4 GN steamers were oil burners.
Only the early steamers were either wood(really old) or coal fired. GN had alot of oil resources in ND and MT to
accomidate them and not much for coal. I already did a couple oil bunkers in my tenders and will convert the rest of them when I get time

As far as the UP question goes, I only model the GN and NP plus a little "Q"

So stay tuned, things will start happening


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Ok, here's the first picture as I get ready to start proforming surgery.



As you can see, both locos are GN, Imagine that
Not much to add, watchin' the hockey game. More later !!!

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No Marty,
Your just chicken to cut up a steamer
I've had a couple sucesses out of 2 trys and the last one was an award winner

This one will be a killer and may tear up some rails with it's traction and weight on drivers


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Tonight's plan of action is to work on the drive. Sorry, no pictures yet. But I have drawn out the placements and modifications of the driving rods.

I have the #2 drive partly disassembled and ready for cutting. I also bought a nice bast**d file today to
file down the main drive rod sections to connect axles 3 to 4 and move the original last driving rod over to
axles 4 to 5. So I hope to have the drive finished tonight. Then I will post pictures in my next installment

I will be shooting pic.s as I go along in my work as I did on the 4-8-2 project.

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Ok a couple pictures from last night.
THe drive is close to being done. I stopped work about 3 AM due to being so tired.
But this is what the drive looked like during the splicing.



This is what it looked like after hooking up the drive rods.


So today I will be fine tuning the drive and starting the prep to build the modified Pacific frame.
More yet to come.

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Discussion Starter · #21 ·
No glue you guys
The last axle is fastened to the existing block with a couple plates and a few screws in a triangular configuration

to allow the last axle to pivot or swing just a bit
This way it allows the loco to make those 10 foot and maybe, short sections of 8 foot curves. Here is a couple photos of the splice plates.





I just couldn't resist using the top plate on an Aristo switch machine to do the job.
It just seemed to be appropriate to use


More to come, but it's back to work for me. That is, non train work


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This is just an update.
I've been just playin' around with starting a frame as well as removing extra parts off off the mallet.
Looking at pictures I have and a little consultation with another member, I will be using a Lionel shell to
make the Belpraire firebox. So now I need to find a Lionel LS 2-4-2 shell as well as the large sanding dome
off of an Aristo 0-4-0. So here is where the loco is at the moment.



More to come !!!
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Quick post. I've done alittle work ahead of the scheduled plan and while fightin' this cold bug, I did a little working on the front of the boiler.[/b]




What I did first was to remove the front of the smoke box off of the mallet, then cut off the one on the pacific and fill the hole
with the mallet smoke box door. Then temp. mounted the air pumps from the mallet on the pacific shell and the class lights from
the mallet on to the top of the pacific boiler shell. I will be changing out the lenes in the lamps later. THen I costom reworked the
mallet headlight and mounted it to the front of the boiler.


Like I said, this is just a "fitting" of the mallet parts. I still have some adjustments to make and the smoke box to paint
B-4 final assembly. This is the 2nd pacific frame and I will need to cut it down and mount it to the drive. The other frame I
used was un-usable because it had no walkway. another frame (back half) is on the way down, so it won't be too long
B-4 the lower frame is complete and upper shell work can start. Also, the Belpraire firebox will be made out of a couple
Lionel LS atlantic shells of which, one is on the way also.

Still more to come


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Slowly but surely, work keeps progressing

The slow progress is due to awaital of parts that I've ordered or am trading for. Some of those parts arrived today.
This would be the other rear pacific frame with circuit board. So I shold be able to splice and complete the lower frame tonight
and get the rear trailing truck installed also
I've started to add some of the details to the boiler as you've seen in my previous
post, but I did the large sand dome, adding the filler caps and the "tool box" to the front porch area just under the front of the boiler.



As you can see, there is a nail file proping up the front of the boiler on top of the steam chest.
So tonight's other challange will be to right this problem and also to bolt the lower frame to the drive unit. Another thing I will need to do
will be to start sanding off the molded on piping to get the boiler preped for painting when the time comes. The prototype locos were all
black boilers with light gray or silver colored smoke boxes. Not all GN steamers wore the older Glacier green colored boiler jackets

Well I guess I need to get back to it and keep the work a goin'. Hoping for UPS to bring me a couple large boxes with my 2 bay hoopers.
Bit it's the postman I'm looking for. He'll have the Lionel atlantic I'm waiting to get my paws on to cut up the boiler for this beastie

Still lots more progress to come....

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Once again another update
[/b] Just taking my time and waiting for more parts as I do the build.
Yesterday, the other half of the frame came in and I spliced it onto the existing frame.



Then I cut the extra screw lengths this morning and then cut the shell to it's proper lenght awaiting the Lionel atlantic shells to do the Belpraire firebox. All this is fun, right ?!?




As you can see, I made a custom GN style sanding dome to go with the other modified dome.
Next I did some more cuttin' and modified the bottom of the firebox as to duplicate the prototype.



It still needs some smoothing out work and note the modified Aristo Pacific trailing truck. I changed out the wheelset and cut down the height of the truck assembly to clear the modified firebox. It to needs to be mounted on the firebox bottom.

Other than that, I added a bell and whistle to the boiler in the appropriate spots.



So next will be the filing off of all molded piping. I removed the safety valves to be mounted later in the correct spots on
top of the Belpraire firebox along with a bunch of other parts.

The project is moving right along


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Hey Chuck,
I think the loco your refering to is an M-3 class simple articulated.
They were actually a 2-6-8-0 and were rebuilt out of old Lima locos. Thanks for the offer. I'd be neat to see the plans.
But I think the next steamer to get turned out after this one will be a Baldwin S-2 class Northern. It will have the 80 inch
drivers from off of the Lionel locos I tear up. I have made a trade with the extra drive from the mallet already too.
So to build the S-2, I will need to buy a new Mikado to get the gearboxes to power the 80 inch drive wheels.

Not much to report on the Q-2 yet today.
I was working late last night to attach the drive to the lower frame, so there's not much to show. Most of the mounting posts had to be hand made or custom crafted bushings/spacers made to getthe correct height.

But I plan to be working on it later tonight. Hopefully the first atlanic will arrive today for the Belpraire firebox section. I'll keep y'all posted on the progress complete with pictures



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Well it's a happy day in the receiving Dept.

The Atlantic shown up today as well as 8 new Aristo GN hoppers

SO I got to work cuttin' up the atlantic and seperated the Belpraire firebox section.
After an hour to two of cutting, filing and sanding, I got it down to the size to fit the boiler. As feared though,
it is a bit on the short side and I will either need to splice in another piece of atlantic firebox, OR get brave with
styrene and try to finish out the boiler with 1/8th styrene and take the sanding block to it. I'm not sure what
I want to do. Here is some pictures of the work in progress.









As you can see, there is a gap between the belpraire and the cab,
This varies between 1/2 inch at the bottom to about and inch at the top. Keep in mind that I will be cutting and angling the cab front end at a rearward slope from top to bottom typical of most GN steamers. Ideas and suggestion and comments are welcome.

More to come


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A late update from last night's progress ...
I worked on the front pilot and "Cow catcher". After looking at the prototype pictures, I deceided to
replace the Aristo "Cow catcher and partial front pilot with the one from the Lionel atlantic. I thought
it looked more like the real thing AND the lionel part offered a coupler pocket to place a modified Kadee
coupler in. Here are pictures.





I first tried using a 831 Kadee, but found it too low according to the kadee guage. So I changed it out with an 836 coupler.
There still needs to be a little smoothing out out in a few spots
But I still like the look.

I also did some work to install the rear trailing truck.





Due to the height/clearance restrictions after lowering the bottom of the boiler, I chose to modify the trailing truck
and modify the mounting on the bottom panel. I may elect to change the trailing truck a little more, but it's finally mounted
on the loco frame.

There's more in store later and I'm still waiting for the other Lionel shell to arrive to complete the Belpraire boiler.

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Tonight's progress report is that I've finally changed out the marker light lenses and added the short dome with the safety valves and other details.
I also spotted the dynamo too. Here's the pictures.













Will post more tomorrow with more comments.

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A quick note here with work in progress, no pictures at this time.
I deceided to cut the Belpraire firebox and splice in a piece made out of styrene.
Lot's of work here, but it is a viable solution. At the moment, I am making and istalling beams and cross beams of styrene that
will hold up the styrene "walls" of the spliced in piece. I hope to have some pictures B-4 calling it a night. If not, I will post them
tomorrow morning.

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Ok, here's the pictures ...
What I did was cut the Belpraire firebox and inserted a few cross beams inside to fix 1/8th thick styrene to for extending the firebox section of the boiler. I will then file down the screw heads to an almost flush finish to the shell.





Doing this will give the shell some good strength and support for mounting parts on to and for handling purposes.
So tomorrow(later today) I will make a couple thin cardboard "jigs" to use to trace then cut out the 1/8 inch styrene.
It may take more than one piece to do the top and I may split that in two in the middle of each piece if I can not bend
them into the correct beveled angle at the middle of the top.

More to follow tomorrow :)

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Discussion Starter · #45 ·
I guess the reason I used the small Kadee screws is, well there's two reasons.
1). They are small and work well on these projects.
2). They're free, or kinda free as they come with Kadee #830s and I don't have to go out and buy the screws seperately.
And I've accumulated quite a few of these screws and matching nuts with all the frieght cars I have collected :)

As for the Belpraire firebox "stretching", I've almost got all the styrene in place, so pictures will soon follow later.


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Well, here is the progress on the Belpraire firebox from last nite.


I added the styrene covering and filed down the screw heads flush with the shell.









Don't mind the mis-alinement on the shell in the last picture, I bumped the table while shooting that last picture and the
shell pieces of the boiler and firebox became mis-alined as the firebox was just resting on the frame and was not screwed down
yet.

Todays project will be to do the work of sloping the cab and cutting the hole for the firebox to come thru.
Still lots more to come


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Here is a quick update from yesterday's progress before we left for the game last night.
About all I got done after work was to cut the hole in the cab for the belpraire firebox to come thru into the cab.
Today I hope to get the sloped front edge of the cab done. The cab now fits nice and snug on the firebox.





After doing some research on the "Q" series, I found that if I had done a Q-1, I could leave the cab shape as it is.
In fact as you check the steamers that GN had in their roster, all dash one locos(ending in -1) were original locos from the
builder and they all had the square shaped cabs. The dash 2 and above ( -3 and -4) locos were rebuilds in GN's shops and in most
cases, would have the sloped front edge of the cab.

Hope to post more progress later tonight.

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Sloped cab now completed(other than a little sanding and filler)








I guess now I can work on the details for on top of the Belpraire firebox and cab interior.

Stay tuned !!!

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