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Does anyone know if the Bachmann 4-4-0 American and the Bachmann Mogul have the same size cabs and boilers? Is the only difference the extra set of drivers?
 

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As far as I know, yes, but I would not be willing to swear to that. Makes sense from a manufacturing standpoint, though.
 

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Fletch could chime in here as he redid a Mogul to make a Eureka & Pallisades #6 Reveille (a companion to the #4 Eureka) and he had some interesting comments. As I recall, he said that it wasn't as simple as a straight across swap as he had originally thought it would be! Apparently, Bachmann made changes between the two models in places where one wouldn't have thought they'd have needed to...
 

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Thanks Pete, he did a beautiful job presenting his bash, but I did not see a list of differences. I'll send him an email and see if the cabs are different.
 

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Hi,

One point from David Fletcher is that the Mogul has a collar around the bottom of the steam chest/saddle unit.

This is because the loco that Bachmann used as a prototype (Ward Kimballs?) had one there BUT it is NOT part of the loco when built!

This was put there because the castings (two; one each side to make up the steam chest and saddle) had in the past cracked, and as they are expensive or cannot be found (pattern makers for such castings are a 'dying breed' throughout the world, this is what has happened to the UK loco Green Arrow, where the cylinder casting is a large and complicated 'monobloc' casting, is cracked ) now the collar was put on to hold it all together.

It can be removed: it needs the front truck removed, the cylinder assembly slackened off (remove the screw underneath), and remove the thing, then re-assemble and fill in the space where the collar was with styrene card to bring it up to level.

This (especially the cab & wire) was why I painted my 4 4 0 to D&RG Colors with the boiler & cab in position!

David Fletcher's website is at http://4largescale.com/fletch/index.htm the go to the 'Bachmann bashes'

To get the cab off (and Kevin Strong's article in GR has a lot of help), some of the tanks under the cab will have to come off as they hide the screws that hold the cab on.

There is also (from David again) a thin orange colored wire that when the cab/boiler assembly comes off is very likely to break! Beware, and bear it in mind.
 

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Chaps,
Everything from the running boards down on the Mogul is different, but the actual boiler and cab are the same between the 4-4-0 and 2-6-0.
The running boards on the mogul are different, as is the chassis below. The wiring is not completely compatable either, you'll find LEDs stop working, and the loco runs in reverse, but that would all probably depend on which version of the mogul and which version of the 4-4-0 were swapped!

The cab is good for either model with no change.

David.
 
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