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Posted By JerryB on 03/30/2008 3:30 AM
I am trying to participate in a discussion in the Track Forum and was using the Quote / Rich Text Edior to reply. I was working with the usual problems of not being able to see the original posts and the fact that after hitting two returns for a paragraph feed, then typing the first character, the cursor moves up one line.

After struggling to type several paragraphs, i went to "review" and got the following message:

"Object reference not set to an instance of an object".

I gave up at that point. What does this message mean and what does it have to do with a discussion of track radius in a model RR forum?

Now in trying to generate this new post, the cursor is continuously doing its move up one line trick!

Sorry Shad, but the 'new' forum software is crap. I really have tried to participate, but this is just too difficult.

Happy RRing,


You know what Jerry, I'm sick of your bitching. Really sick of it.. Beyond sick of it. It's been well documented that there are problems with the new forum. I'm painfully aware of your constant whining about how things aren't working the way you want them to. Your negativity and constant bellyaching is dragging the forum and its participants down more than any technical difficulties that are out there. Every time someone tries to present you with a solution or an alternative, you shoot them down and berate their suggestions. Instead of being positive and trying to find solutions, you just complain about the problems. As far as I am concerned, at this point, because of your constant negativity, you are part of the problem.

You mentioned all the feedback listed and the lack of response in another thread. Many of those feedback items are duplicates, or talking about the same thing. Many are not bugs or problems, but just features that are different or don't work the way that people expect them to based on the old forum. Some are non critical things like formatting. The resolved count reflects only the items I took action on... I have also been taking action on items that are not in the feedback. Most recently I have been working on the classifieds section. There were a number of bugs that were preventing people from actually communicating with each other about the items for sale. It was a high priority item.

As mentioned, I have been submitting bugs with developers. I am dependent on them to add additional features. Most items in the feedback section are addition features to this forum software and not "bugs" or problems. While the old forum was great and all, it had its flaws as well. They just weren't as visible to you. The snitz forum was open source, had gaping security holes, was prone to spam, had lousy server performance, and was built on an old, no longer supported platform... It did not use a fancy html editor, but a basic text editor that you could put forum code into. The HTML editor is where the majority of the problems lie in this new forum. While it's true that the current forum may not be as mature as the old, it has many more features.. Some of these features do need more work..

I've said on numerous occasions, as recently as a few days ago that I know there are problems and I am working on them. That doesn't seem to be good enough for you. Sorry. There are only 24 hours in a day. I'm not superhuman, and I have other responsibililties(like family and a real job) that have to take a priority over fixing every "issue" you find with MLS. Some items are the way they are and will not change. They are just a new different way of doing things. Other items can be fixed. I'm working on them. When will they be fixed? I don't know. I can't say for sure. I work on it when I can.

As a result of your bitching, I have turned off the rich text editor that everyone is used to and replaced it with a standard text box to make the site more "Jerry" friendly. Most likely I will also be turning off the quick reply form at the bottom of topics too, to prevent your "timeout issue". Hopefully you can post succesfully now and will stop the daily rant calling all my hard work "crap".

Your experince as a "systems designer and development engineer and the principle technologist" does not mean you have an understanding of what it takes to run a web site the size of MLS. Unless you've really walked a mile in my shoes, you have no place to say what should or should not be done. Most everyone that I know on the site that does have experience doing work similar to what goes on here at MLS is behind me. They understand the strain and stress that I'm going through, all for a web site that I do "for the fun of it". So lay off, go outside (or inside if you prefer) and run a train. That's what it's all about. I wish I could, but instead of actually doing my hobby, I run a website about my hobby, so I don't have time to enjoy it.
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