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Looking for a source for the Clippard air cylinders which had been available from Sunset Valley.
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Jim,

My best suggestion is to look at online industrial suppliers. Reid Supply came up in a quick search, another source to cross reference to is Bimba.

Do you have a Clippard P/n to reference?

Al P.
Jim,

My best suggestion is to look at online industrial suppliers. Reid Supply came up in a quick search, another source to cross reference to is Bimba.

Do you have a Clippard P/n to reference?

Al P.
No.
You cannot buy from Clippard directly?
Greg, looks like they sold the line to Compact Automation and these cylinders are not on there website, but supposedly available. Maybe Sunset valley is having difficulty getting. if these are the cylinders i am thinking of they do not cross to other options i am aware of in industry.

Al P.
Yeah, I had problems finding the cylinders on their site by normal navigation...

I did find the catalog on their site:

Interesting... I looked at Compact automation, and I also could not find the miniature cylinders... drat.

I think what we want starts on page 160:

Sigh, guess we have to find out who makes these, or search ebay for onsies...

let me know what you find, I post what I find...

Greg
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It looks I need to get working on completing the 3D model I had been making to hold the smaller Bimba air cylinders, so they could mount to the headblocks easily. Before I joined Llagas Creek, they had that type of housing for the Del aire and ez-air cylinders modeled to look like switch machine control boxes on the prototype, I still have about 20 of them in stock. Last I looked the Bimba cylinders were about $18 ea, and a good alternative to the Clipboard ones... They were even stainless construction! I'll see if I can get the exact model number of the cylinder for you.
It looks I need to get working on completing the 3D model I had been making to hold the smaller Bimba air cylinders, so they could mount to the headblocks easily. Before I joined Llagas Creek, they had that type of housing for the Del aire and ez-air cylinders modeled to look like switch machine control boxes on the prototype, I still have about 20 of them in stock. Last I looked the Bimba cylinders were about $18 ea, and a good alternative to the Clipboard ones... They were even stainless construction! I'll see if I can get the exact model number of the cylinder for you.
Thanks, much appreciate. Jim
very helpful, and it would be great to have one version that had a microswitch inside to power the frog.

I'm using Aristo wide radius and #6 switches, would be great to have a setup for the #6 where the long axis was parallel to the rails (so it could fit between double track).

I would be interested in a number of them, and there is no supplier at this time.

Greg
Sorry for the delay in getting back to yall with the air cylinder information. I took a look through my emails and found the information about the Bimba brand pneumatic piston. It is the Original Line Air Cylinder and you can see by visiting the site there are many things that can be customized... bore size, stroke length, single or double acting, etc.

I ended up buying a 5/16" bore with 0.25" stroke cylinder as a sample a year and a half ago to see if they would fit in those del aire/ez air housings I mentioned. These Bimba cylinders are smaller in diameter than the del aire/ez air cylinders, but a bit longer by about 1/4".

In addition to the cylinder you would need to buy a barb/gasket that screws into the back of the cylinder (#10-32 thread) and has the hose bard for the small ID tubing like what Sunset used to sell (I think it was 1/16"?). These can be bought from Clippard or found online from other sellers with the Clippard item# CT2-PKG.

The Bimba cylinder just has a threaded end on the rod, so unless you want to chuck it up in a drill press/mill and put a center hole, the end clevis and pin would be necessary to buy. That is a Bimba product, item# D-26690.

All the parts assembled look like this:
Fluid Font Hypodermic needle Cable Plastic


I originally chose the 0.25"stroke to match the Tenmille ground throw stroke, but it wouldn't hurt to give it a bit of extra room by getting another 1/16" of stroke (0.313" rounded up to the thousandth).

The price for the cylinder is about $20, the hose barb/gasket is $1.05 ($5.21 for a pack of 5), and the end clevis and pin is $7. So this would put you in for $28.05 plus shipping for each cylinder set prior to buying any sort of mounting solution. It's still not too bad considering the stainless construction.

I will try and get some sort of mounting housing 3D model designed and some 3D printed examples made next month. I imagine if I am successful, the owner of Llagas Creek wouldn't be objected to having them made available on the website along with some accessories like hose, toggles, end clevis, barbs, etc. with a small mark up to cover the costs and make it worthwhile to stock. I'd put all that stuff under a new section "Pneumatics."

I'm still looking for reasonably priced toggles, they tend to be quite expensive those little things... more than the cylinder itself!

-Mike
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Mike, I find that the EZ-Aire had quite a bit more stroke, over 1/2" as i remember, and that helped make the mounting less critical (centering the throw mechanism).

I'll look at the Bimba line, I saw their catalog, will start documenting, so I can make a decision.

Any thoughts on internal mechanisms?

Did you ever see the EZ-Air mechanism?

I have several that not everyone saw:



Not the lowest friction design, or the most "dirt proof":

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n 1/8 in male NPT and 1/4 male NPT)
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Looking for a source for the Clippard air cylinders which had been available from Sunset Valley.
I have a large group of Del-Aire and EZair components that I bought some years ago from Stretch Manley at CC&O Ry for an indoor G scale layout I planned but never got to build due to a lack of space for a large scale layout at the home we bought upon my retirement. They include actuators, 400 feet of tubing, toggle valves, throttle valves, diverter valves, a selector valve and a shuttle valve, brass barbs, tees, elbows, a regulator, various brass connectors, etc. None of the components were ever used and all but a couple are still in their original unopened packaging. I’ve attached a list below.

I’m also going to sell off all of my G scale equipment, rolling stock, engines (including an Accucraft K-27 with Harbor Models smoke, a gorgeous Berlyn K-36, a Hemmens Porter live steamer, a Shay, a Climax, a Mogul and the Bachmann Eureka), a beautiful set of Gary Watkins Sierra Valley Munger Mining Series cars as well as his West Side caboose, more than twenty never used kit-built Sunset Valley weathered nickel silver switches and lots of track, and a new-in-the box New York Railway Supply PTC III turntable control system with all the upgrades including heavy duty stepper motor and shaft brake. Also an Eagle Wings 38 Inch diameter turntable for the PTCIII to drive and more than 2300 redwood ties. I’ll be putting up a complete list of the equipment on the site shortly.

In the meantime, here is the list of the pneumatics. I will need to sell them as a complete group. Please let me know if you might be interested.


Del-AirePartCount
03-specialElbows 1/16 ID pkg 5
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006Sleeve coupling female to 1/4 FNPT
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007Coup. Nipple- male to 1/8MNPT
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025Tube reducer 1/8MNPT-Barb
1​
MISCbrass pipe nipple
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014Regulator and Gauge
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030Air Toggle
26​
035Manifold 4 Station
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036Manifold 8 Station
1​
039Barb Tees Package of 5
4​
049 UTUnder-Table Mount Air Motor w/Integral .055 Linkage for S, O Hi-Rail/Scale, G, #1 Gauge
24​
043UTUnder-Table Mount Air Motor w/Integral .055 Linkage for N, H0n3,HO,TT,Sn3,On3,S Scale
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052Tubing 200' brown
E-ZAir
EZ650Toggle Mount Throttle Valve
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EZ640Shuttle Valve
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EZ630Diverter Valve
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EZ620Selector Valve
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EZ60035 micron filter
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EZ402WTubing 200’ white
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210KBarb Plug, black nylon (5)
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EZ262Manifold 12 station
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Llagas Creek(sold by CC&O RY)
0426-DMMKDel-Aire Motor Mount and Motor Kit
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Sunset ValleyBrass barb plugs
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Brass adapter set (1/6 in barb on 1/8 in male NPT and 1/4 male NPT)
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