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On the GSM forum. Note that it will be down for server work, so if the link does not work, give it a few hours.

(EDIT, log in needed to view, some of the photos are posted below)

http://www.gscalemad.co.uk/forum/index.php?showtopic=1087&st=0

Did not think it was real until the SHALL tanker was posted. I guess they fear Royal Dutch Shell's legal staff more than Marklins?
 

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Counterfeit by the looks of it.

Apparently, GSM requires membership to view now, oh well.
 

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I'm still having major problems with this mls forum - hope this works:


this was the most informative post on g-scale mad:




so, some more info, the brand in "train - complete train system for indoor and outdoor": please note, they are toys made in china, this is the first and most important info !!!!!

btw I've seen and touched, they are toys, not high quality, but really cheap, here in Milano price are:
1 tank wagon "shall": 12 euro
2 low side truck gondola: 18 euro
1 loco br 99 with rc included: 99 in a shop and 80 in another

we discovered (asking to the import firm...) that there are more materials (engines, stock and track) but no info is availble, this is totally new for the dealer; we asked for a catalogue, they tell us: "ok, next month"

in my opinion ideal for scratchbuild or for children playing with them

looking carefully at shall tank (I bought), I noticed it's a basic replica of toytrain, with some different details (eg wheels and axle box)
btw, again, with 12 euro you can't get a spare part of a frame...
and with a new paint, lettering and detailing, they are good for ruuning on our layouts

ciao, Paolo
 

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Wow! So it would appear the factory in China is doing the end-run on Marklin...I guess maybe they really did manage to hold on to some of the molds eh?

Keith
 

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Just hope they don't get a Quaker Oats Puffed Wheat car.

I can see the trademark logo/slogan now...

"Shot From Guns" will never be the same for me....

 

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Might be worth a trip to the toy district downtown to see if they have any
 

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For those that don't have access to g-scale mad.

It seems that the loco wheels are plastic - possible because the loco comes with basic commercial RC control.
But the rest of the loco (except the drive train) is apparently very close to the later version of the LGB Harz engine.
 

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KRS, Cant use plastic or SWMBO will be roused, must use the paper stuff. Must find local seller.

I am SOOOOO tempted by those coaches though...


So,

ANYONE call around yet to see if any train retailers are stocking them?
 

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Posted By Cougar Rock Rail on 10/17/2008 2:54 PM
Wow! So it would appear the factory in China is doing the end-run on Marklin...I guess maybe they really did manage to hold on to some of the molds eh?

Keith




From what I hear they still have all the molds that were there when the doors closed.


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Posted By Del Tapparo on 10/17/2008 6:59 PM
Guess I don't even know what a "Shall" tank is. I know "Shell" oil.




You never heard of "Shall" oil???

That's the name of the Chinese subsidiary of Shell - they couldn't use a "Western" name like Shell in China, 'Copyright' issues you know!
 

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A friend of mine got one of the new/improved BR 99 6001s when they came out a couple years back, stunning model.

Never thought to look to see country of origin....
 

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Well they sure aren't going to be getting any of my money. I would encourage everyone else to pass on this form of capitalism too. Money spent on this kind of stuff does nothing to further the hobby, and I doubt very much if any of the money they make will be put back into the business in the form of new molds etc. And at these prices, you know how much (or how little) the workers are getting. Very sad to see this happen, in my opinion.

Keith
 
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