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Here hoping that everyone in Victoria and New South Wales are ok with the terrible wild fires. Please let us know.
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Just a bit more re the conditions in the South eastern area of Australia (they also have floods in Queensland!) - this is from a note from David Fletcher to me -

The temperatures in the area are the highest since 1855, and have been high for a while. There have been cooler periods (and some rain) but I do not think it was much - the 10 day forecast does not give any help either - 70 to 80F. Melbourne is cooled by being on the coast; inland temperatures will be higher! The very kigh temperatures are also making the gale force winds and that is adding to the damge being caused.

Meanwhile on t'other side of the world in the UK, like you in the USA we have cold & snow! For all next week at least, and possiblty for the month!
 

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The morning of Monday 9th of Feb there are 114 people confirmed deceased due to the fires in Victoria and numbers are rising. Due to the act of a selfish 19 year old boy who might I add is/was a volunteer cfa fire fighter, (this is only for the gippsland fires) people have not only lost there homes and worldly possessions but innocent people have lots their lives. Some of the confirmed dead are News reader and his family, adults, children, grandparents, aunts and uncles. It is sad that one person can cause so much destruction to so many communities.
for the last two weeks we Victorians have endured 40 plus degree days, the scale of destruction is incomprehensible however it could be much worse due to fire bugs, we had more fires very close to home in seaford, langwarrin, carrum downs, lyndhurst, hampton park, pakenham, whittlesea, as well as gippsland and the dandenongs (for those who know victoria well).
There is not much more to say other than we can only hope those who perished did not suffer and those who are left unite to help those in need.
God bless our firefighters, police, ambulance officers, emergancy relief, and volunteers and for all the families who have lost relatives and God bless those who have passed!
 

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Posted By Grant Kerr on 02/08/2009 1:58 PM The morning of Monday 9th of Feb there are 114 people confirmed deceased due to the fires in Victoria and numbers are rising. Due to the act of a selfish 19 year old boy who might I add is/was a volunteer cfa fire fighter, (this is only for the gippsland fires) people have not only lost there homes and worldly possessions but innocent people have lots their lives. Some of the confirmed dead are News reader and his family, adults, children, grandparents, aunts and uncles. It is sad that one person can cause so much destruction to so many communities.
for the last two weeks we Victorians have endured 40 plus degree days, the scale of destruction is incomprehensible however it could be much worse due to fire bugs, we had more fires very close to home in seaford, langwarrin, carrum downs, lyndhurst, hampton park, pakenham, whittlesea, as well as gippsland and the dandenongs (for those who know victoria well).
There is not much more to say other than we can only hope those who perished did not suffer and those who are left unite to help those in need.
God bless our firefighters, police, ambulance officers, emergancy relief, and volunteers and for all the families who have lost relatives and God bless those who have passed!


It won't bring anybody back, but I'd really like to see some public justice for once.

When they find the arsonist, I think that he should have a fair trial and be hanged within the hour.

Thoughts and prayers with our Ostrilian brothers and sisters.

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TAC,
Couldn't agree with you more. I have some special ops friends who could make him feel everyone of those tragic deaths he caused before dispatching him.
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Just an update - death toll still stands at 114, unfortunately it's only just begun, fires are still burning in outer Victoria a couple are still major threats to make losses worse. The weather is helping to ease the fires but winds aren't helping the situation. Many people are still missing and the real death toll probably wont be known for days. This disaster has been declared our worst in Victoria history. People are just coming to terms with the fact they don't have anything left. There are also over 70 people in burns units across Melbourne's hospital ranging from minor burns to the doctors say that they wont make it.
Our Prime Minister is declaring it Mass Murder as a couple of fires are known to be arson and the many others are currently being investigated or beginning to be investigated.
I repeat God Bless those who are lost and the families who are left behind and all those who are in the emergency services.
 

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I came in from fishing Sunday afternoon to hear 50 lives were lost, I was shocked! But when I woke for work this morning to find the death toll had doubled I was completely stunned and outraged.

The pictures I have seen are look like a war scene from a movie, nothing in the fires path could escape.

I hope the people that caused these fires (I don’t think all were deliberately lit) are prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
 

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In no way do I intend to diminish the tragic loss of life in the fires, but I think the Australian model is not to execute the arsonist. From past history it would be to ban everyone from selling and owning fire starting materials like matches and lighters.
 

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In Australia we do not have executions.

I believe you ‘past history’ comment is drawing a similarly to Australia’s gun ownership laws which were changed after a mass killing killed 35 people, the Port Arthur massacre?
 

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Posted By thekollector on 02/08/2009 6:42 PM
In no way do I intend to diminish the tragic loss of life in the fires, but I think the Australian model is not to execute the arsonist. From past history it would be to ban everyone from selling and owning fire starting materials like matches and lighters.


Tragically, that is the typical response from the 'Socialist State', something we are apparently heading toward.
 

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Yes, that 's where my reference was headed. Western americans feel a great kindred-ship with the similarity of experiences with Australians. The reaction to Port Authur showed a divergence.
 

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To all our OZ friends:

I am very sorry to read of these disasters. I wish the Lord will end the troubles, and will pray for that tonight. I am sad for all of Australia--which, incidentally--fielded the toughest army in WWII and helped put an end to Japanese expansion. And Rommel's activities. Man for man, they fought the Panzer army of the desert to a standstill. With enough and better equipment, they'dve finished the job. You are all a proud people, and have won respect the hard way--by earning it.

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A person / people made a choice to create this disaster - there is no natural about it and they should be held accountable. A reaction of ban flammable substances or substances that can create fire is a bit over reaching - education should be implemented to ensure this disaster doesn't happen again. Although education only fueled the 19 yr old Firefighter into starting the gippsland fires, so in retrospect what can you do.
I just hope that those who died and their families will receive some justice!
 

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Politics being introduced in a discussion of such a tragedy is digusting.

Just for once could politics be left out of it.
 

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Unfortunately i report that the death toll has unfortunately climbed to 128 confirmed deceased. God Bless those who have perished and our prayers are with those families who have lost loved ones
 

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Death toll is currently at 176 with many more expected as access to burnt out houses becomes possible.
Terrible business. Good news however, I phoned Gordon Watson (Argyle Loco Works) yesterday, he and Shelley are OK so far even though they live in the danger zone.
 
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