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Posted By Spule 4 on 04/19/2008 6:24 AM
I went ahead and spent $1.50 to order the plans from Marc H., time will tell once the plans get here what this beast looks like.

Garrett; I assume that "Mark H." is proprietor of nemodels.com? I didn't see where they offered just the plans on their website.
I would be interested in building a few of these to pull behind my 1:20 scale Baldwin-like tank engine modeled after those locomotives used in the Hawaiian Cane fields in the late 1800s and into the early 1900s. NE Model's 2-axle passenger cars, shortened to about a 10 foot scale length looks alot like the passenger cars used on Hawaiian plantations to haul workers to the fields.

The shortened wheelbase with rigid journals should work well, since I built a set short wheelbase/rigid journal "backwoods" work train cars and experienced no problems on small radius curves.
 

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Thanks Garrett. I don't know why I didn't think of SideStreetBanner Works as a plan source.

Yes, this is an ever-growing smaller world:) Vance Bass was my inspiration for bashing the Ruby kit into the tank engine. If your interested, my builder's log is listed under the "Features|Builder Log" menu and then look for my name.

Thanks again, Garrett.
 

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Posted By Spule 4 on 04/23/2008 8:20 PM
The plans came in the mail today.
Neat car, probably a better representation of what the LGB StLB Mixnitz car should be based on my H0e models.
Anyhow, it does have a VERY long four wheel wheelbase, but I wonder how it would be if made about two windows shorter?
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My plans got here too!!
I'm now seriously considering making it a 4-window workman's coach. This will bring the dimensions down to a 7 1/2" length to reasonbly match my work train consist, which are 6 1/2" long....based on Ozark's 10-ft cars.
 

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Posted By Jeff Livingston on 04/19/2008 1:29 PM
Somewhere, I think NG&SLG, there was a plan for one of the "Kalakaua" cars. The cars were named after King David Kalakaua who was very interested in bringing and expanding railroads in the Kindom of Hawaii. If I remember correctly the wheels could piviot slightly under the car through a somewhat complicated arangement of sway and torsion bars. One of these cars still exists on Maui but is in storage along with the locomotive "Claus Spreckels" and not available for public viewing. One of the original cars was outfitted for King Kalakaua's use on Maui and carried the Royal Coat of Arms, etched glass window panes and very luxurious seating. Some time ago someone built some short 4-wheel passenger cars using Bachmann trollleys which looked very similar to the cars in question.
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Kaneohe, Hawaii




Jeff, thanks for putting us onto the March/April 1993 NG&SLG article. Just received it from the publisher and "yes" Peter Bunce, a rigid/fixed 4-wheel coach with a long wheelbase might be unruly. But according to the article, each of the 2-wheel undercarriages where anything but fixed. As Jeff indicated, and verified by the article, the undercarriages of the prototype allowed it to go around sharp curves by the curve applying force on the leading wheelset, which inturn caused the trailing wheelset to turn in the opposite direction thru an arrangement of offset truck center pins & links.
So, the long wheelbase plans from the Garden Railways Oct 1999 issue could work using the prototype's rotating undercarriage setup.

Might be fun to make!!
 

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Posted By Spule 4 on 05/02/2008 10:57 PM
Ah, the simple looking car is not so simple anymore......
Wonder if that back issue is still around?




Garrett....even though NG&SLG's website says that they have the March/April 1993 back issue available, they don't. If you call Benchmark Publications, Ltd.(NG&SLG's Subscription service) at 1-800-545-4102, they'll provide you the publisher's personal phone#. The publisher of NG&SLG will send you a photocopy of the article. I would give the phone# to you, but I can't find where I filed it/DesktopModules/NTForums/themes/mls/emoticons/crying.gif
 
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