I went ahead and spent $1.50 to order the plans from Marc H., time will tell once the plans get here what this beast looks like.
NE NG Hawaiian 4 wheel coach?
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Posted By peter bunce on 04/19/2008 8:17 AM
Hi Garrett,
It will be plywood and stripwood from one of their horse drawn vehicle kits.
The long wheelbase is what is a possible cause of concern, it would be better with some springing, and of course some weight under the floor. Here in the UK we have many more vehicles (till recently) with a long 4 wheel chassis, that the USA, your bogie vehicles are much more track friendly that these styles of chassis. Springing assists a lot of taming the beasts!
That is how I remember their kits in the 1980s. They had a neat line of 1:24 scale Maine 2' stuff for 32mm track back then, appears to be gone now/DesktopModules/NTForums/themes/mls/emoticons/sad.gif.
Long wheelbases and ridgid journals are some of the concerns here, with some sort of equalization needed for sure, but wanting to stay away from the swing movement of Lehmann.
I had considered and even started buying some of the UK 4 wheel models, but with the terrible for us US dollar to Pound rate and UK vendors loving to slap surcharges on export items and/or not removing VAT as they should, I have turned to doing this Stateside.
Hi Garrett,
It will be plywood and stripwood from one of their horse drawn vehicle kits.
The long wheelbase is what is a possible cause of concern, it would be better with some springing, and of course some weight under the floor. Here in the UK we have many more vehicles (till recently) with a long 4 wheel chassis, that the USA, your bogie vehicles are much more track friendly that these styles of chassis. Springing assists a lot of taming the beasts!
That is how I remember their kits in the 1980s. They had a neat line of 1:24 scale Maine 2' stuff for 32mm track back then, appears to be gone now/DesktopModules/NTForums/themes/mls/emoticons/sad.gif.
Long wheelbases and ridgid journals are some of the concerns here, with some sort of equalization needed for sure, but wanting to stay away from the swing movement of Lehmann.
I had considered and even started buying some of the UK 4 wheel models, but with the terrible for us US dollar to Pound rate and UK vendors loving to slap surcharges on export items and/or not removing VAT as they should, I have turned to doing this Stateside.
Posted By maculsay on 04/19/2008 8:54 AM
Posted By Spule 4 on 04/19/2008 6:24 AM
I went ahead and spent $1.50 to order the plans from Marc H., time will tell once the plans get here what this beast looks like.
Garrett; I assume that "Mark H." is proprietor of nemodels.com? I didn't see where they offered just the plans on their website.
I would be interested in building a few of these to pull behind my 1:20 scale Baldwin-like tank engine modeled after those locomotives used in the Hawaiian Cane fields in the late 1800s and into the early 1900s. NE Model's 2-axle passenger cars, shortened to about a 10 foot scale length looks alot like the passenger cars used on Hawaiian plantations to haul workers to the fields.
The shortened wheelbase with rigid journals should work well, since I built a set short wheelbase/rigid journal "backwoods" work train cars and experienced no problems on small radius curves.
Hello Howard-
Marc Horovitz of "Garden Railways" fame. The pull-out plans are (were?/DesktopModules/NTForums/themes/mls/emoticons/sad.gif) made by NE for the magazine.
http://www.sidestreetbannerworks.com/railways/plans.html
The other car of interest is the coach from Ozark. The combine is also intersting, but a bit long looking, and maybe the problems as above?
Funny, I saw a photo of your saddle tank loco (the one on the left in your sig) on Vance's website earlier this AM, fate or what?
Posted By Spule 4 on 04/19/2008 6:24 AM
I went ahead and spent $1.50 to order the plans from Marc H., time will tell once the plans get here what this beast looks like.
Garrett; I assume that "Mark H." is proprietor of nemodels.com? I didn't see where they offered just the plans on their website.
I would be interested in building a few of these to pull behind my 1:20 scale Baldwin-like tank engine modeled after those locomotives used in the Hawaiian Cane fields in the late 1800s and into the early 1900s. NE Model's 2-axle passenger cars, shortened to about a 10 foot scale length looks alot like the passenger cars used on Hawaiian plantations to haul workers to the fields.
The shortened wheelbase with rigid journals should work well, since I built a set short wheelbase/rigid journal "backwoods" work train cars and experienced no problems on small radius curves.
Hello Howard-
Marc Horovitz of "Garden Railways" fame. The pull-out plans are (were?/DesktopModules/NTForums/themes/mls/emoticons/sad.gif) made by NE for the magazine.
http://www.sidestreetbannerworks.com/railways/plans.html
The other car of interest is the coach from Ozark. The combine is also intersting, but a bit long looking, and maybe the problems as above?
Funny, I saw a photo of your saddle tank loco (the one on the left in your sig) on Vance's website earlier this AM, fate or what?
Posted By maculsay on 04/19/2008 11:29 AM
Thanks Garrett. I don't know why I didn't think of SideStreetBanner Works as a plan source.
Yes, this is an ever-growing smaller world
" border=0> Vance Bass was my inspiration for bashing the Ruby kit into the tank engine. If your interested, my builder's log is listed under the "Features|Builder Log" menu and then look for my name.
Thanks again, Garrett.
Will do, thanks for the tip.
I will post stats for the dimensions once the plans get here.
Thanks Garrett. I don't know why I didn't think of SideStreetBanner Works as a plan source.
Yes, this is an ever-growing smaller world
" border=0> Vance Bass was my inspiration for bashing the Ruby kit into the tank engine. If your interested, my builder's log is listed under the "Features|Builder Log" menu and then look for my name. Thanks again, Garrett.
Will do, thanks for the tip.
I will post stats for the dimensions once the plans get here.
The plans came in the mail today.
Neat car, probably a better representation of what the LGB StLB Mixnitz car should be based on my H0e models.
Anyhow, it does have a VERY long four wheel wheelbase, but I wonder how it would be if made about two windows shorter?
....see the LGB comment above maybe?/DesktopModules/NTForums/themes/mls/emoticons/unsure.gif
Neat car, probably a better representation of what the LGB StLB Mixnitz car should be based on my H0e models.
Anyhow, it does have a VERY long four wheel wheelbase, but I wonder how it would be if made about two windows shorter?
....see the LGB comment above maybe?/DesktopModules/NTForums/themes/mls/emoticons/unsure.gif
Posted By vsmith on 04/24/2008 3:04 PM
Please post a building log, I am curious to see how these come out. I picked up a pair of NENG trolley car kits off evilBay but so far havent worked up the gumption to build'em yet, wood, its sooo different from styrene/DesktopModules/NTForums/themes/mls/emoticons/tongue.gif" border=0>
Having built/kitbashed/scratchbuilt in styrene, wood, metal and resin, styrene is my least favorite and the biggest pain of them all, resin is the easiest, and the others are between. Of course this was all in HO most recently, nothing large scale in 20 years.
The last car I actually scratchbuilt (NC&StL pulpwood rack converted here in Nashville from a 36' boxcar) used a resin underframe, styrene sides, metal (code 55 rail) bracing and a natural wood load.... The prototype was ugly, the model ugly, but it came home with a 1st place freightcar award....
Please post a building log, I am curious to see how these come out. I picked up a pair of NENG trolley car kits off evilBay but so far havent worked up the gumption to build'em yet, wood, its sooo different from styrene/DesktopModules/NTForums/themes/mls/emoticons/tongue.gif" border=0>
Having built/kitbashed/scratchbuilt in styrene, wood, metal and resin, styrene is my least favorite and the biggest pain of them all, resin is the easiest, and the others are between. Of course this was all in HO most recently, nothing large scale in 20 years.
The last car I actually scratchbuilt (NC&StL pulpwood rack converted here in Nashville from a 36' boxcar) used a resin underframe, styrene sides, metal (code 55 rail) bracing and a natural wood load....
The prototype was ugly, the model ugly, but it came home with a 1st place freightcar award....
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