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Looking for protype LNER Teak info

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I am looking to get some protoype information for building my live steam Mallard rake.  Granted, it is OO, though being live steam, I think it qualifies for MLS.  Especially considering it will be running on an elevated track in the backyard  /DesktopModules/NTForums/themes/mls/emoticons/tongue.gif

The first question I have is...  What is the purpose of a brake car?  How many would have been on an 8-9 car rake behind the Mallard running the teak cars between King's Cross and Grantham back in the day?  Here in the states, I've never encountered this during my research of US prototypes, so I'm baffled.

I have been gathering Hornby teak coaches from across the world, and I'm pleased to say I have 10 teak cars, and an old Pullman "Pheonix" Parlour car.  Some are here, and the last ones are in transit.  Without having them in hand and checking for sure, I think they are as follows:

2 full coaches
2 sleepers
1 oval ended window coach
1 Pullman "Pheonix" Parlour (not teak)
5 coach/brakes, hard to tell for sure from the photos.

Would the cars have diaphrams between them?  What would a prototypical rake look like from beginning to end, and how many brake coaches would be in an average train at most?

Also, any web sites than folks can offer for research would be most appreciated.  Seeing as I've recently settled in for a 16 hour shift (and it is dead out there tonight), I'm sure I'll find some info in the next few hours.

Thank you,

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Ralph, thank you for that info so far. Ok, so I guess I'm not gonna have a true/factual rake at the moment.

A few qestions come to mind at this point. And unless some of you have knowledge oh HO/OO offerings, the answers I'm looking for may not be found on a large scale site.

Would the Hornby Buffet car fall into the kitchen or resturant catagory? www.hornby.com/passenger-rolling-stock/lner-corridor-buffet-r4173/product.html

Does anyone make an actual seperate teak resturant and kitchen car in HO/OO?

Is there anyone else producing HO/OO LNER cars to fill the gap?

What does a "beaver tail" look like, and where can I find one? (stop snickering, that isn't what I meant!)

And finally (until I come up with more questions) what is the LNER 150, and where can I get a peek at that info?
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Pete, excellent. Thank you for the good news. That means I have nine Gresley teaks, one Thompson, and one Pullman Parlour. I'm doing ok. I'm gonna go check that web site in a moment.

I used to take this route from London to Thurso Scotland going back and forth from boarding school a few times a year. And as I research and plan more, my fiance' is getting very excited about it.

Pete, would it have been unheard of to see an A4 hauling a rake of various colored cars?

Fear not. No Mallard should be demoted to pulling US cars.  Nothing wrong with them, they look great behind a K4, Hudson, etc...  The Mallard though needs teak cars, or at least british coaches!!!

Mark, I'll go through all my cars when the last six arrive. Should be here by the end of the week. Once I know what I have, and find the nine I'm gonna designate as the "Flying Killam Consist", I'll pass on those three BR Maroon/Cream coaches and a couple others. It won't be a perfect matched set, though they all will be Hornby british coaches. I'll even add weights to them, then your Mallard will think it is pulling a full rake or 8-10. Also, I sent you an email on my roller base. If you want to use it while debugging your loco, let me know. If you also want to try my terminal track I'll send that down to try. 

Maybe we'll have two Mallards at DH. 

When the new coaches arrive, I'll post some photos.  I only hope the Large Scale Police down issue a warrant for posting OO cars here  /DesktopModules/NTForums/themes/mls/emoticons/shocked.gif


Sorry to say work was very busy today.  I only got about five pages into the Grantham book.  I'm hoping tomorrow is quieter.  Man, some people have nerve calling 911.  Don't they know I'm trying to read?  :D

Kent SA# 4468
LNER Mallard
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Good luck debugging. I trust Luke cooperates and goes down quietly.

Let us know how it went tomorrow.

Kent SA# 4468
LNER Mallard
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