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Yes i saw that statement also. BTW he broke his own rule but don't any one else try it.
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He runs the board and owns the company, he can do what he wants...

I see no problem in the statement actually... he even says he's breaking his own rules...

As for the people who got kicked off...

I also have been on the Aristocraft group a while.... and you can only rub someones
nose in something so long before they have had enough... I'm truly sorry some people got kicked off the aristo board
becasue they did have lots of insight and knowledge to share, way more than I...

I think its the way that it was done... and it continues here with
the Aristo bashing, snide sideways comments etc...
You can't walk into Sears and keep telling people Wal-Mart does it better/cheaper etc...
Eventually you will be asked to leave... its a private business... They need/want to make money...

One of the outlets for such things with large scale trains is here... and thats why I like MLS as well as the Aristo group....

Lewis finally got mad and that was that... I'm not saying Aristo (he) does everything right (they don't, no company does), but there is a way to tell someone about a problem, and ways to get it solved without coming off as just plain mean and vindictive...

I saw a few threads on the Aristo forum that were kicking the same dead horse over and over and over...
(Road Railer Tires, Switch Frogs, Backwards Box Car Floors, Tender Wiring)

If a part is designed wrong or poorly or something was missed, it can't be re-engineered, molds made, re-manufactured etc overnight...

I do agree Aristo has some issues with items.... but all the manufacturers do...

OK... Now lets start Bashing USA TRAINS or BACHMANN.... No... LGB... those LGB guys are Crazy!!!!


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Yes by all means let's not miss another chance to criticize aristocraft! Especially something like this, a general interest post to the large scale community. ESPECIALLY when he starts off by acknowledging that he's breaking his own rules. Anybody else want in?


Meanwhile, that seems like a smart move by Bachmann. Used versions of the lionel thomas and james go for way too much on ebay, considering that they were close to junk to begin with. Wish they had done this sooner
 

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What was that about the Golden Rule?

Whoever has the Gold, makes the Rules???

I just hope its not a crapper like the Lionel, me hopes they bring out the entire dam lineup! - then I can back-engineer them to close to prototype and finally have my English layout.

I desire Emily
 

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You'll notice he got his thread locked for talking about a competitor's product
 

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Posted By lownote on 01/21/2009 11:34 AM
Yes by all means let's not miss another chance to criticize aristocraft! Especially something like this, a general interest post to the large scale community. ESPECIALLY when he starts off by acknowledging that he's breaking his own rules. Anybody else want in?


Meanwhile, that seems like a smart move by Bachmann. Used versions of the lionel thomas and james go for way too much on ebay, considering that they were close to junk to begin with. Wish they had done this sooner





Yes it called keeping your word and doing as you preach... so no sypothy here again for them breaking there own rules.. but its ok it there forum, nothing like setting an example...i guess you cant expect much, poor product, poor company
 

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You guys are a riot, the one thing you miss in all the negativity and bashing is promoting the hobby. Lewis posted it because its something good for large scale. Bachmann making Thomas is probably the best news large scale has had in years. Believe it or not manufactures do talk to and support each other. Large scale is simply to small a market for there to be animosity and negative competition between manufacturers. Congrats to Bachmann.

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I had a G scale Thomas around my christmas tree this year, so this is nothing new. Lionel made these in the mid 90s.
 

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Hey Nick,

I sense some anger and frustration...

I'll leave the porch light on... I got beer in the fridge... The basement has heat....and the trains are running...

Feel free to stop by and calm down a bit... have a drink... runs some trains...

Beware though... most are Aristocraft... but I'll park them on a siding and you can run the LGB and USA stuff until you are ready...

I'll even show you an Older Pacific pulling 19+ freigh cars through 6.5' curves on my indoor layout...

Oh, I run the evil PWC power to the rails also...


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Posted By lathroum on 01/21/2009 12:40 PM
Hey Nick,

I sense some anger and frustration...

I'll leave the porch light on... I got beer in the fridge... The basement has heat....and the trains are running...

Feel free to stop by and calm down a bit... have a drink... runs some trains...

Beware though... most are Aristocraft... but I'll park them on a siding and you can run the LGB and USA stuff until you are ready...

I'll even show you an Older Pacific pulling 19+ freigh cars through 6.5' curves on my indoor layout...

Oh, I run the evil PWC power to the rails also...


Philip



No anger and No frustration just the truth... you didnt send me your address???? i can stop by i will even bring a bunch of my aristo stuff to run, only its been modified to work properly with USA parts... it all good thou. im truely glad your having good luck with your trains but, it will run out hopefully not for some time but when it does, i'l be here for ya...
 

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Posted By George Adams on 01/21/2009 12:37 PM
You guys are a riot, the one thing you miss in all the negativity and bashing is promoting the hobby. Lewis posted it because its something good for large scale. Bachmann making Thomas is probably the best news large scale has had in years. Believe it or not manufactures do talk to and support each other. Large scale is simply to small a market for there to be animosity and negative competition between manufacturers. Congrats to Bachmann.

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No one is bashing bachmann at all, although some would try to make it look that way thats fine ,there intitled to there opionion even thow its wrong, we are bashing the fact that you and your boss make a set of rules then break those rules as you see fit then you get personal when someone else does it.. doesnt set a good example........ SO there goes my new years resolution.. bet you cant figure out what that was....... remember whats good for the goose is good for the gander, other wise the goosie get cooked.......
 

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Posted By Nicholas Savatgy on 01/21/2009 12:20 PM
Yes it called keeping your word and doing as you preach... so no sypothy here again for them breaking there own rules.. but its ok it there forum, nothing like setting an example...i guess you cant expect much, poor product, poor company










Really now! There was no product comparison going on or any real discussion. Just a bit of kudos given. If its such a poor product why did you just buy all those E-8s??? That's showing them by spending a grand on their locos!


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This is the best news I've heard in a long long time!

I am with you Vic in the hope that they eventually make the whole line, and simply scale up their OO models to run on gauge 1 track.

It'd sure shake up a lot of these stuffy old birds, eh?
 

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This Chevy vs Ford stuff is too mcuh...

I'm gonna come clean now...

I own a 1955 Ford Wagon... I love it... I wanted a 1957 Chevy but my pockets weren't that deep...

I own Lots of Aristo Stuff... I have a Pacfiic...I love it too... I want a USA BIG BOY, but my pockets aren't that deep, nor are the curves on my layout...

I have a small indoor layout... only 6.5' curves... I wanted a larger curves and a larger basement... but my pockets aren't that deep...

They are deep enough for the USA GP7.. I like the looks... and the GP38... I bought it before the GP40 came out...

I LOVE LARGE SCALE TRAINS... secretly even the little squished looking 2-4-0 from LGB...

oh well...

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I am glad that Bachmann is making the Thomas and Friends engines and hope for cars also.
My old Lionel Thomas has bit the dust, was going to put new drive train in but will now
wait until the new ones by Bachmann are out, hope by summer.

Ken owner of K&K the road to nowhere
 
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