Ok...I've been trying to dig out information on some of the largescalecentral posts, and haven't been able to find what I'm looking for, in particular the k27 'fixes' that TOC has posted here, and have been redone on lsc site. What I'm particularly interested in is the removal of the Ames super socket(sic) and rewiring of the loco. I can't afford to burn the damn thing down, hence my research. Any help would be hot, and that includes finding it on MLS. Thanks, Jeff
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Ok...I've been trying to dig out information on some of the largescalecentral posts, and haven't been able to find what I'm looking for, in particular the k27 'fixes' that TOC has posted here, and have been redone on lsc site. What I'm particularly interested in is the removal of the Ames super socket(sic) and rewiring of the loco. I can't afford to burn the damn thing down, hence my research. Any help would be hot, and that includes finding it on MLS. Thanks, Jeff
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Jeff,
Have you tried the 'site specific' version on google? "site:largescalecentral.com k-27 TOC" seems to produce a lot of results. As does "site:mylargescale.com k-27 TOC"
(However, I've been having occasional problems with this - Bob seems to have blocked google at times. Maybe part of his redesign.)
Have you tried the 'site specific' version on google? "site:largescalecentral.com k-27 TOC" seems to produce a lot of results. As does "site:mylargescale.com k-27 TOC"
(However, I've been having occasional problems with this - Bob seems to have blocked google at times. Maybe part of his redesign.)
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Hi Pete; no, I don't know where to begin, being not much of a computer geek. I guess you just copy and paste in the browser?
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Or you could also contact Dave directly, his website is still up:
http://dnkgoods.home.mindspring.com/
http://dnkgoods.home.mindspring.com/
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I don't know that Dave ever wrote up a "how to" on removing the socket board, but the wires coming from the locomotive are fairly well marked on the socket board, so when you remove it, you can label the wires accordingly.
The 7-pin connector is as follows:
right rail
Motor+
Motor-
Left Rail
+V (for lights, etc.)
Ground (for lights, etc)
Smoke -
The 6-wire connector
Chuff - (first chuff sensor)
Headlight -
Chuff - (second chuff sensor)
Cab light -
Marker light -
Firebox light -
Keep those labeled and you should be good. Know that if you're installing batteries, then you can ignore the rail connections, but you must run the battery power forward to the locomotive via the "+V" and "Ground" connections. If you're using the rails to supply your control voltage, you likewise need to run power forward via these terminals, but it must be connected to the rail inputs via a bridge rectifier.
For the chuff, you'll need both the "IR 1" and "IR 2" connectors wired together to get four chuffs per revolution, and you'll also need the transistor circuit to invert the signal so that the sound boards can recognize it. If you don't want to use the optical triggers, and instead want to use magnets on the rear axle of the locomotive, then you can hook the wires to the reed switch to the "IR 1" and "IR 2" wires in the locomotive, then use those wires in the tender to connect to the chuff trigger on the sound board you're using. (That's what I did on mine.)
Later,
K
The 7-pin connector is as follows:
right rail
Motor+
Motor-
Left Rail
+V (for lights, etc.)
Ground (for lights, etc)
Smoke -
The 6-wire connector
Chuff - (first chuff sensor)
Headlight -
Chuff - (second chuff sensor)
Cab light -
Marker light -
Firebox light -
Keep those labeled and you should be good. Know that if you're installing batteries, then you can ignore the rail connections, but you must run the battery power forward to the locomotive via the "+V" and "Ground" connections. If you're using the rails to supply your control voltage, you likewise need to run power forward via these terminals, but it must be connected to the rail inputs via a bridge rectifier.
For the chuff, you'll need both the "IR 1" and "IR 2" connectors wired together to get four chuffs per revolution, and you'll also need the transistor circuit to invert the signal so that the sound boards can recognize it. If you don't want to use the optical triggers, and instead want to use magnets on the rear axle of the locomotive, then you can hook the wires to the reed switch to the "IR 1" and "IR 2" wires in the locomotive, then use those wires in the tender to connect to the chuff trigger on the sound board you're using. (That's what I did on mine.)
Later,
K
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Posted By Lake Valley #1 on 16 Feb 2013 08:56 AM
Hi Pete; no, I don't know where to begin, being not much of a computer geek. I guess you just copy and paste in the browser?
To search for info, like Pete says, you can copy the text he provided a sample of and paste it into a Google Search page;
Open a new tab or browser window and ni the URL text box at the top, type in the following text.
Google.com
and click on the arrow key next to it or type the "Enter" key. This will open the Google search site.
In the middle of the screen will be a text box where you can type a word or phrase that you want to see what is on the internet about it.
if you were to just type:
K-27 TOC
And click the Search button (a magnifying glass icon).
Note, that as soon as you type the 1st character, the screen will change from showing a new nearly everyday, graphic of the word "Google" at the top with the text box below, to just the text box... don't let that throw you, just keep typing!
The search will present all sorts of things that may or may not be associated with a steam locomotive (real or toy), because it will present links to anything, anywhere on the internet that match the text you type in. I just tried it and got links to doctors, wrestling, Kindergarten to Grade 12 schools, and all sorts of things that have nothing to do with the K-27 steam locomotive.
To limit the search to just one website, such that what it finds will probably be limited to the real subject of the search, you can include the key-word "SITE:" and the URL of a particular web site to search, and then a space character and the text for which you want to search. Such as:
site: MyLargeScale.com K-27 TOC
Be sure to include the color (":") after the word "site".
In general, capitalization on the internet is ignored, so "TOC" and "toc" are the same thing. You could also type whole sentences to make it appear more intellegible to someone peering over your shoulder, but that is not at all necessary. I sometimes do it because I can't seem to narrow my choice of words for a subject down until after I have written it out. It is often shocking how Google will recognize what I am typing and suggest the complete query to me long before I get half of it typed in! Sometimes the suggestions are really odd and funny!
My battery back-up box on my video surveillance PC started "clicking" the other day and I got concerned, so I went to Google and began to type:
Why is my APC Battery ba
And Google suggested:
Why is my APC Battery backup making clicking noises?
Clicking on that suggestion completed the typing for me and then clicking the search button provided hundreds of links to blogs and forums where people have been asking the same question.
Hi Pete; no, I don't know where to begin, being not much of a computer geek. I guess you just copy and paste in the browser?
To search for info, like Pete says, you can copy the text he provided a sample of and paste it into a Google Search page;
Open a new tab or browser window and ni the URL text box at the top, type in the following text.
Google.com
and click on the arrow key next to it or type the "Enter" key. This will open the Google search site.
In the middle of the screen will be a text box where you can type a word or phrase that you want to see what is on the internet about it.
if you were to just type:
K-27 TOC
And click the Search button (a magnifying glass icon).
Note, that as soon as you type the 1st character, the screen will change from showing a new nearly everyday, graphic of the word "Google" at the top with the text box below, to just the text box... don't let that throw you, just keep typing!
The search will present all sorts of things that may or may not be associated with a steam locomotive (real or toy), because it will present links to anything, anywhere on the internet that match the text you type in. I just tried it and got links to doctors, wrestling, Kindergarten to Grade 12 schools, and all sorts of things that have nothing to do with the K-27 steam locomotive.
To limit the search to just one website, such that what it finds will probably be limited to the real subject of the search, you can include the key-word "SITE:" and the URL of a particular web site to search, and then a space character and the text for which you want to search. Such as:
site: MyLargeScale.com K-27 TOC
Be sure to include the color (":") after the word "site".
In general, capitalization on the internet is ignored, so "TOC" and "toc" are the same thing. You could also type whole sentences to make it appear more intellegible to someone peering over your shoulder, but that is not at all necessary. I sometimes do it because I can't seem to narrow my choice of words for a subject down until after I have written it out. It is often shocking how Google will recognize what I am typing and suggest the complete query to me long before I get half of it typed in! Sometimes the suggestions are really odd and funny!
My battery back-up box on my video surveillance PC started "clicking" the other day and I got concerned, so I went to Google and began to type:
Why is my APC Battery ba
And Google suggested:
Why is my APC Battery backup making clicking noises?
Clicking on that suggestion completed the typing for me and then clicking the search button provided hundreds of links to blogs and forums where people have been asking the same question.
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Aahhh...Great info, guys; Thanks a gillion(sp?)! I'm off to 'see the wizard' LOL be back later...Jeff
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