[Chris Scott]

Roundhouse typically pictures their products in bright colors. What it might look like in colors other than military green (?).

Peter Angus locomotives:

 

[Chris Scott]

Roundhouse website price list 2,859.33 BPS. = 4,330.40 USD (5/11/2015 exchange rate)
http://www.xe.com/

 

[Chris Scott]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Scott View Post
Roundhouse website price list 2,859.33 BPS. = 4,330.40 USD (5/11/2015 exchange rate)
http://www.xe.com/

I checked and the Darjeeling Garratt price ex VAT is 2,958.33 BPS.
That is three Garratts on the boil now!
They are all going to be quite expensive too unfortunately.


Andrew

Find, so after typing it twelve times I transposed a couple of digits, Ok

$4,330.40 USD = 2,958.33 BPS

Try it http://www.xe.com/

I'm half dyslexic - don't know which half

Happy

 

[Chris Scott]

Roundhouse chose correct prototypical colour:

This is how the locomotive appeared in the early years of the service.
There are not many photos known, but here is a nice painting:

I do not know if it has ever been repainted in a different colour. Best wishes from Tokyo, Zubi

Best to remember the WHR required two tries to get Edison Green right. Hopefully Roundhouse will come round. That Green (or whatever it's called) is atrocious. Calling that color Green is surely offensive the Green.

The color in the painting is superior to the Roundhouse color. It's positively revolting, and I don't particularly are for it.

DHR D Class
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DHR_D_Class

Photo Labeled "Beyer-Peacock works photo"

I think a spectral analysis would show the reflectively off the painted area in this photo would not translate to Green. And painting in this photo is in panels with lining. As labeled on multiple locations "Beyer-Peacock works photo" and is probably Beyer-Garratt Grey as delivered to DHR.

Interestingly, this photo clearly shows painted panels and lining with DHR on the bunker unlike the painting or Roundhouse model. It would be interesting to know what reference Roundhouse used for the color and paint scheme.

I searched but could not find any dimensions for the DHR D Class. But this photo does offer some relative comparison to the K1. Relative to the man standing next to the D Class It doesn't appear much bigger than the K1.

WHR K1:

Zubi's posted DHR D cutaway and painting both show panel outlining versus the Roundhouse model which has none. The lining would help the Roundhouse very plain paint job. Panel lining will be available from Roundhouse on the delivered models, if only as an add option.

Final point of interest, you would think, like many other DHR locomotives, the D Class Garratt would have at least been painted Darjeeling Blue; there would be at least one photo of it could find itself somewhere in the historical records.

 

[Chris Scott]

I wonder if the prospect of another Garrett model coming to market, with photos showing it's real, versus K1 is just being planned so far, will devalue the NGG16 Garratt on eBay and it will sell for less than the first?

 

[Chris Scott]

The water gauge is a window in the boiler. Only other model I know that had a window into the boiler was the Frank-S.

What scale is it? 1:19?

 

[Chris Scott]

Scott,

The works picture looks strange (ie not green looking) because works pictures generally saw the loco painted in a light gray with black accents. The K-1 works picture is the same shading and for a time while it was on exhibit at the NRM it was painted "works gray" as it was called on the exhibit placard which actually looked rather nice IMHO!

Mike McCormack
mocrownsteam
Hudson, Massachusetts

I like the works grey too. As I understand the K-1 will be offered in both grey and black.

 

[Chris Scott]

Chris, you need to update your info more often. Starting from VoR all Roundhouse engines have this feature. It is very robust and effective. Best wishes from Tokyo, Zubi
PS as to scale, I believe it is close to 1:19, but Roundhouse never builds precisely to scale. I expect it will go well with the B-class.
PPS Oh, you are mistaken about the Darjeeling blue, this was introduced after the D was scrapped.

Zubi;
I don't have info to update, only questions, nothing but questions. Notwithstanding, I am dependent on your impeccable erudition.

As always, thank you.

 

[Chris Scott]

Boiler sightglass is a reflex type as used on ride on scales. Much more reliable type.

Also scale is stated at 1:19 per Roundhouse.

Chris, you need to update your info more often. Starting from VoR all Roundhouse engines have this feature. It is very robust and effective. Best wishes from Tokyo, Zubi
PS as to scale, I believe it is close to 1:19, but Roundhouse never builds precisely to scale. I expect it will go well with the B-class.

Chris Scott
Apr 13 (7 days ago)

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What scale is the Garratt? 1:19, other? Is the Garratt re-gauge capable 32/45 mm ?


Apr 15 (5 days ago)

The Garratt is 16mm to the foot which is indeed 1/19 scale and yes, it is re-gaugeable between 32 and 45mm.

Regards
Harri Harrison
for Roundhouse Engineering Co. Ltd.

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Apr 15 (5 days ago)

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What type of sight glass in on the Garratt? I'm told it's a Reflex type. What is a Reflex type sight glass?


Apr 20 1:49 AM (12 hours ago)

None of our locomotives have a reflex type sight glass. A reflex gauge has a flat glass panel with vertical angular grooves cut in it’s rear face that refract the light differently where water is behind it.
All of our gauges use plain glass.

Regards
Harri Harrison
for Roundhouse Engineering Co. Ltd.

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Notes
Reading the description of a Reflex Sight Glass it seemed it just wouldn't scale to 1:19 very well.
https://www.google.com/search?q=Reflex+Sight+Glass&rlz=1C1CHFX_enUS578US578&oq=Reflex+Sight+Glass&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i60&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=0&ie=UTF-8

Images:
https://www.google.com/search?q=Reflex+gauges&rlz=1C1CHFX_enUS578US578&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=UG01VaakK5LZoATRiYCYCQ&ved=0CC0QsAQ&biw=1600&bih=744

 

[Chris Scott]

Roundhouse now has 'groovy glasses' man.

Andrew

Andrew,
What about Roundhouse writing (email above) they use only plain flat glass?

"All of our gauges use plain glass."

Regards
Harri Harrison
for Roundhouse Engineering Co. Ltd.

 

[Chris Scott]

Chris, I was too busy thinking how the reflex sight glass worked and missed the entire point that Roundhouse does not use grooves in their glass.

Andrew

Hey, we all get stuck in grooves now and then.

 

[Chris Scott]

Roundhouse Garratt Videos

Couple of short videos of the Garratt on Roundhouse Facebook page, with more photos, etc.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Roundhouse-Engineering-CoLtd/116369505103011?fref=ts


I don't know whether the Green is growing on me or the color just looks better in natural light; the green color does seem to look better..

For those of us unfamiliar with Roundhouse water gauge a more revealing photo from their facebook page: