Real world Shays, Climaxes, and Heislers were built in almost every gauge including standard.
If you are trying to model a G-Scale Standard gauge with a narrow gauge shay, then yes you add a third rail to make the track multi-gauged. Sunset Valley sells prebuilt multi-gauge track. If you are talking about the Bachmann shays, then no, you just use any G-Scale track. Anything labeled G-Scale will run on G-Scale track.
Posted By Snoq Pass on 01/12/2009 8:43 PM
Shays, Climaxes, and Hislers were built in almost every gauge including standard. If you are trying to model a G-Scale Standard gauge with a narrow gauge shay (of a different scale), then yes you add a third rail to make the track multi-gauged (Sunset Valley Railroad sells multi-gauge track). If you are talking about the Bachmann shays, then no, you just use any G-Scale track.
It seems that Bill may be thinking that a narrow gauge loco needs different track..
I suggest you start here: in G scale, as different from other scales... the track stays the same, and people use different scales on the same track. This is typical (there are variations). So using 45mm track for standard gauge, you wind up running 1:32 to be accurate.... if you us 45mm track for narrow gauge, your scale winds up being 1:20.3. There are other scales applied to 45mm track, but these 2 combinations are the most accurate common ones.
So if you walk into a hobby shop and buy a Bachmann K27, which is a model of a narrow gauge mikado, you get something that runs on 45mm track but is scaled 1:20.3... now go into another hobby shop and buy an MTH Hudson, it will run on 45mm gauge track, but it's a standard gauge loco, and the scale is 1:32.
Very weird if you are coming from another scale, hence, my guess at your confusion.
I probably should have been clearer, but as I pondered the question, other facts got in the way. First, yes, I'm coming from N guage! I'm just getting started in G and, in fact, awaiting delivery of my first box of USA G track. I was interested in the Bachmann Shay, then I got to reading some other posts about the earlier Bachmann Shays needing metal trucks. Then, I read one fellow's comments about the reliability of his Climax. So, I wondered if the Bachmann Shay needed some narrow guage track-other than standard G, and/or would a Climax be a better runner-and the same question on the track.
All Bachmann locos run on regular 45mm #1 Gauge track.
Early run Shays may need to have the trucks replaced.
The last run of two truck Shays had metal trucks and run very well.
The first run Climaxi had a problem with the fixed drive shafts binding. This is easily fixed by replacing the rear drive shaft with a Bachmann supplied slip drive.
They both run well.
The Shay does have chuff timer contacts.
The Climax does not have useable chuff timer contacts.
As long as they are all "G" gauge, all run equally well on "G" 45mm track.
What Tony says is right, get the latest version Shay and you should be good to go, the Climax is nice but as they have all sold out the production run, any you find now will be used, and likely your buying someone elses problem. Theres a outside chance Bachmann may be reissueing the Climax later this year, if so it should also have the upgraded drive the current Shay has. I'd go for the new Shay if I had the coin.
Bachmann still makes the two and three truck Shay. They should both have metal trucks. They stopped production of the Climax and you must check around for a used one. They were all made with plastic trucks. I haven't heard or seen anything in print about Bachmann re-introducing the Climax but there is always the possibility. Bachmann also makes a Heisler if you are interested in geared locomotives. All of the Shays and the Heisler are scaled to 1:20.3 and represent 3' narrow gauge engines.
Posted By Snoq Pass on 01/12/2009 9:35 PM
altterrain, "What you talkin' 'bout Willis?" Who in the world is Willis?
altterrain, "Don't confuse the poor man!" Well sorry for trying to help him.... What have you contributed to this thread that is actually helpful?
popular 80's catch phrase from "Diff'rent Strokes"
You lost me Snoq talking about dual guage track and all. Begineers forum here. Simple answers are best.