There is a guy on ebay with the seller id of catholicreligiousgoods selling undecorated Aristocraft box cars (black box). ( Item 260205634821) Be warned that he charges flat rate $16.95 shipping no matter where he ships them to and doesn't tell anyone until AFTER you buy the boxcar(s). His listing is misleading as he leads you to believe that shipping is included in the bid. It isn't. It just doesn't cost that much to ship one of these boxcars. Best to just stay away from his stuff.