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I am preparing to assemble a Hudson kit. I've been reading the instructions and wonder if there's any online resources to clarify the process?
Southern Steam Trains used to have a website that had various build logs for Aster engines, but they are gone.

At this point in my reading, I am particularly befuddled by the directions in Section 13 for attaching the steam chests to the steam pipes and frame.
I can't understand how to fit the threaded steam pipes between the frame mounted steam chests. The total length of the steam pipes must be wider than the gap in the frame. There must be a simple method to do this as most Aster engines are constructed this way - but I can't see it.
 

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Rich,
If I recall, the outer connecting pipes were screwed right into the 'T' pieces, so that they will fit between the frames, and then the connecting pipes unscrewed so that they then screw into the valve chests and cylinders.
Is that not possible?
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David Leech, Delta, Canada
 

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Rich,
If I recall, the outer connecting pipes were screwed right into the 'T' pieces, so that they will fit between the frames, and then the connecting pipes unscrewed so that they then screw into the valve chests and cylinders.
Is that not possible?
Cheers,
David Leech, Delta, Canada
David,
I haven't taken the pieces out yet - am just reading the directions to gain enough courage to tackle this.
But what you suggest must be the answer. The directions seem to make a point of screwing the connectors in all the way before mounting the two steam pipes.

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Rich
 

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I believe there is one passage in those instructions that reads "tax your ingenuity"
 

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Rich,
I am sure that you are probably aware of the issues with the Aster Hudson boiler, so when you are ready to run it you must NOT see the water level in the gauge glass.
By then it is too late and the centre flue is uncovered and disaster could be close!
So, be careful.
Here is how my boiler was modified with a longer water gauge.
Cheers,
David
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There is something called the "internet wayback machine" which has archived many sites...

SouthernSteamTrains.com is indeed archived.

Here's the notes on the NYC Hudson, hope this helps.


Greg
Thanks David and Greg - the link is exactly what I was looking for.
I think the boiler modification you showed David is beyond my skill set.
I'll have to live with the same boiler issue that the K4 has.
It's curious that Aster made the same mistake 2X. and the elevation drawing in instruction diagrams for the Hudson clearly shows the design flaw.

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There is something called the "internet wayback machine" which has archived many sites...

SouthernSteamTrains.com is indeed archived.

Here's the notes on the NYC Hudson, hope this helps.


Greg
I have an archived version of the Southern Steam website locally - I was planning to rehost it but, for obvious and sad reasons, could not get the permission I needed to use the material.

But, should the wayback machine not work, I do have the complete site.
 

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That is really a valuable resource, have you thought of putting it on a web site somewhere? Like one of the freebies?

(how did you save it? pdf? html?

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Greg,
Not sure about the legal aspect here.
Robert surely does not 'own' the content of the late Jim Pitts website, so is he able to use it?
I would think that you need a legal brain to advise on that, if not Jims family.
Also, much of the content was posted with permissions that he obtained from others, so you might need to get those permissions again if used on a new website.
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Davids Leech, Delta, Canada
 

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Pete,
Forgive my ignorance, but can you have a 'private' web site?
Surely the idea is to share information with all interested parties, and thus making it private defeats the purpose of having it.
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Sure, part of my site is private, for my family.

Yes, check with the family, and of course if the site needed permissions, would try to get them.

Would think if permission was given before, pretty easy to get it again.

Anyway, don't lose it... by the way, the internet wayback machine does not go and get permissions... no one has sued them yet.

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That is really a valuable resource, have you thought of putting it on a web site somewhere? Like one of the freebies?

(how did you save it? pdf? html?

Greg
That was my original intention when the site first went down but I felt I needed the approval of the original owner to do so. I haven't pursued it since hearing that Jim had passed.

I used a site scraper (HTTrack) to download the entire site from the wayback machine so have all the HTML. Some links are broken, but otherwise it mainly works. It is a pretty straightforward site originally created with Microsoft Frontpage which was discontinued some years ago.

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Robert,
Interesting about the Microsoft Frontpage.
As you would have read in the G1MRA Obituary, he apparently gave up on the Frontpage when Microsoft stopped supporting it, and then switched over with an Apple system to something else so I wonder if all the later changes that he made are there too, or when the change occurred, or if what you are seeing is the later converted site.
Not that that probably has much effect on the complete most useful package.
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David
 

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Pete,
Whilst I understand what you say, if say I am new to Aster, or Gauge 1, how will I be able to find the site, and if so, who is going to invite me to see it?
I would think it much more useful if available to all who have an interest.
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David
 

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Sorry Greg, not sure what you mean.
Will google find a web site that is set as 'private'?
And if so, will it direct me to the owner to ask for an invite?
Can you give me a link to such a site so I can try it out.
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David
 

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the word private was bandied about without a definition.

Yes, google can find a web site even if you cannot access all the internal pages unless "logged in".

There are records in the web site designed to tell the search engines what is in the web site, usually keywords, so yes they can be found.

Greg
 
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