Posted By Chucks_Trains on 05/26/2009 4:35 PM
I think that you'll find that the Airwire electronics will cause too much electrical noise/interference and raise heck with the DCS signal just like to many lighted passenger cars electronics will mess up the DCS signal even though your only using track power.

If you'e ever heard how electrically "noisy" the rails are it's a wonder any command system works.




Good point, Ray has installed some kind of diode in his lighted cars to offset this electrical interferance. I don't know.... thanks for the input... good fodder to consider.

I consider the concept here as a point of curiosity. Either way I will have DCC and DCS working together however not on the same line... . Question is do I or do I not isolate the inner track and separate the two protocols.

gg

 

Hey GG,

So I understand the question to be, would Airwire (w/DCC signal over the air with just plain track power applied to the rails) work ok with DCS and would it mess with the DCS signal on the layout. If I had to venture a guess, I would say it would and has a good enough chance of working to warrant an experiment with the outlay of $ in equipment to give it a try... since the DCC commands are sent through the air. You know anyone with Airwire that would let you try this out?


Raymond

 

Posted By Rayman4449 on 05/26/2009 8:15 PM
Hey GG,

So I understand the question to be, would Airwire (w/DCC signal over the air with just plain track power applied to the rails) work ok with DCS and would it mess with the DCS signal on the layout. If I had to venture a guess, I would say it would and has a good enough chance of working to warrant an experiment with the outlay of $ in equipment to give it a try... since the DCC commands are sent through the air. You know anyone with Airwire that would let you try this out?


Raymond






YO Ray....

Well, "Going where no train has gone before"....

Where can I source this Airwire stuff from a reliable dealer that I can speak with rather than speak to a computer?

I need to do homework.

So effectively you say that there is a risk however worth the experiment. Is QSI and airwire worth it? This re cab details, control and how does this compare screen wise to other DCC systems ?

Finally is there anyone out there who thinks that the DCS track signals would really upset the airwire decoder? Greg had some input here already.

gg

 

If for some reason it did, you should be able to sucessfully filter it out before it gets to the board. We could go from there if you do encounter problems. I would vote that it wouldn't affect the airwire decoder.


Raymond

 

Posted By Rayman4449 on 05/26/2009 8:51 PM
If for some reason it did, you should be able to sucessfully filter it out before it gets to the board. We could go from there if you do encounter problems. I would vote that it wouldn't affect the airwire decoder.


Raymond




"Going where no train has gone before"

I'm up to the challenge .... need to do homework... Input and support would be appreciated on this trip to Mars guys... Any manufacturer gurus out there?

gg

 

I agree with Raymond's assessment, all the AirWire stuff is "trying to get" from the rails, is just DC power, if filters are needed, they would still allow DC to power the QSI.

Regards, Greg

 

John's hobbies has good prices on airwire. The Airwire throttle is fine, but I would want to get the NCE throttle that works with QSI--whenever it comes out. It looks to be easier to use. The LCD screen on the Airwire throttle tells you everything you need to know, but it's pretty minimal.


Maybe this should be a separate thread, for the original poster's sake?

 

As this experiment moves forward I will be sure to post a new thread on the topic.

So, back to the original thread.... what was it again?

gg

 

GG, I can sell you a brand new AirWire 9000 transmitter, QSI G-Wire receiver and QSI Aristo-Quantum decoder with sound for CDN $199. I bought it last fall and never used it.

You will have to buy the QSI Programmer to change the sounds, unless you are happy with a GP-40 sound.

Send me a private message with your e-mail or phone number if you are interested, and I will contact you.

 

Yes I'd say this thread kind of got derailed. I believe we ehere talking about making detail up grades to locos

. Later RJD

 

thread..... derailed???

But ze is not possiblllee....

 

Ya it is only here.

. I love it. Later RJD

 

I 'm just glad to hear we may have another modern mainliner 1 :29. long live outdoor model railroading.

 

Posted By Paul Norton on 05/27/2009 2:39 PM
GG, I can sell you a brand new AirWire 9000 transmitter, QSI G-Wire receiver and QSI Aristo-Quantum decoder with sound for CDN $199. I bought it last fall and never used it.

You will have to buy the QSI Programmer to change the sounds, unless you are happy with a GP-40 sound.

Send me a private message with your e-mail or phone number if you are interested, and I will contact you.


That's an extremely good deal

 

Low note for the bucks you could be 1/3 of the way towards the desired system of DCC. Later RJD