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Hi Greg,

I installed one of the MRC AD322 decoders into a LGB 20551 White Pass diesel and the loco lights worked very well and very brightly...

for almost a minute - before the 5 volt bulbs burned out. /DesktopModules/NTForums/themes/mls/emoticons/shocked.gif

I would guess that the Aristo lights might last a bit longer but how much longer I would not want to guess.

Jerry



Posted By Greg Elmassian on 08/19/2008 10:01 PM
Yep, they will eventually burn out at DCC voltages of 20v or above... don't ask me how I know!
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Aristo-Craft may have changed the situation (of coach lights) for future Aristo coaches.

I just returned from the MWLSTS with a couple of Aristo Doodlebug/Heavyweight sets and one of the first things I noticed is that they (both) have a totally new lighting system.

The new Doodlebug and coach (just off the ship from China) have about a dozen lights per car. I don't yet know if they are lights or LED's but I think they are lights.

Whatever they are they are much smaller than the old light bulbs and are mounted on a center lighting strip.

The effect of the lighting is great - they look VERY nice in a dark room.

I don't know what the current draw is or if there is a voltage regulator yet.

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Hi Greg,

I really hate to disassemble anything. All too often screws come out with plastic attached.

On the other hand I have now looked close enough to tell that there are 14 lights and they definitely are LED's (not filament). That suggests that there is probably a voltage limiting circuit.

For anyone that may have had similar thoughts of adding another motor block, Lewis confirmed that the Doodlebug has a FA-1 motor block but he also pointed out that it is recessed and it would be pretty difficult to add a 2nd motor block to the Doodlebug.

A very nice feature is that the Doodlebug has a MU connector at the rear (most likely for battery power) but for my purposes I will probably use it to connect the Doodlebug to the Heavyweight track contacts to double the track contacts from 8 wheels to 16 wheels (track contacts).

The Doodlebug/Coach run very well on my track with minimum flickering but for outside use, with 16 track contacts, it should be able to run on VERY dirty track. The set is rated for a minimum of 8' diameter curves.

One other thing I found interesting is that the LED's are what I would call orange - in both the Doodlebug and the Heavyweight (Santa Fe versions) but when running, the coach clerestory(?) light seems to be amber in the Doodlebug and white (clear) in the Heavyweight. This is probably a result of the seats in the Santa Fe Doodlebug being brown and the seats in the Santa Fe Heavyweight being blue resulting in a different reflected light color. At first I was not sure how I felt about the different colors but now it is insignificant to me. I did look at the 2nd Santa Fe set and the seat colors match the colors of the 1st set.

Eventually (no promises about how soon) I will check the Doodlebug and coach for amperage drain. I suspect that with a single motor and LED lights it will be very low.

There IS NOT a plug-in interface for any decoders but I am sure that someone will soon be installing decoders into the Doodlebugs. Since the Doodlebugs are not actually brand new someone has probably already been doing it. I will probably end up putting a MRC decoder in them some day just because the MRC decoders were so cheap and my installation will do nothing more than to put the decoder between the track pickups and the Doodlebug wires that would normally have gone to the track pickups.

Both the Doodlebug and Heavyweights have two axle trucks so they look balanced. My comments only refer to the Santa Fe version. I saw the B&O and D&RGW versions but never took a close look at them. I think Lewis came up with a real winner with these sets. Heck, where else can you find a "train" for about $200?

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Jerry
 

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Aristo-Craft may have the answer both for MTS/DCC as well as track power if they will offer their 14 LED lighting strip as an accessory for previous Heavyweights. The low LED current drain should be great for keeping trains under the 5 amp MTS limit.

Another feature I discovered and like with the new Doodlebug and Heavyweight sets is that the lights come on before the set starts moving which means it will be possible to park a train at the station and keep the lights on when the train is stationary.

Jerry
 
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