Well he's at it again. Sounds like another delay for there upcoming releases. Now he says that the new factory is in the process of installing new computers and changing folks around. So wonder how much of a delay this will cause for the PCC, 2-8-0 and RDC3. Never ends. Later RJD
Another excuse from Aristo
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Posted By lownote on 13 Mar 2010 12:50 PM
The manufacturer isn't obliged to tell us anything. But Aristo kind of makes its own trouble. They post news about a new model--let's take the consol--and then they keep coming up with new and different reasons why it's not here. I looked just ow, found a post from a guy pre-ordering the consol in june 2006. That's four years ago.
When did the production sample first appear? At the 2008 ECLSTS, I think.
They aren't obliged to say anything at all, but there's kind of a "Lucy and the football" feel to the thing.
Because they tell you what you want to hear, simple to understand if you have been around for while....... Can only get away with it for just so long..............
The manufacturer isn't obliged to tell us anything. But Aristo kind of makes its own trouble. They post news about a new model--let's take the consol--and then they keep coming up with new and different reasons why it's not here. I looked just ow, found a post from a guy pre-ordering the consol in june 2006. That's four years ago.
When did the production sample first appear? At the 2008 ECLSTS, I think.
They aren't obliged to say anything at all, but there's kind of a "Lucy and the football" feel to the thing.
Because they tell you what you want to hear, simple to understand if you have been around for while....... Can only get away with it for just so long..............
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Posted By Tom Leaton on 14 Mar 2010 12:35 PM
And I, for one, am glad that the importer stopped things to improve the circuitry, and do extra QC, and add working stoplights that light up on deceleration. TUL
Tom i agree, i think the stop lights will be a cool feature, but that was from early last year how long does it take to add stop lights? and no matter how long they hold up there locos the QC will still be poor and they wont run rite brand new out of the box. This is a givin with Aristo
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This of course is based on past experiance with there product.
And I, for one, am glad that the importer stopped things to improve the circuitry, and do extra QC, and add working stoplights that light up on deceleration. TUL
Tom i agree, i think the stop lights will be a cool feature, but that was from early last year how long does it take to add stop lights? and no matter how long they hold up there locos the QC will still be poor and they wont run rite brand new out of the box. This is a givin with Aristo
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Ed,
The proof is on the forums all you need to do is read here and other sites. Im glad you have had good luck but didnt you have to change out your brand new trucks on you GP-40 to get it to lower the amp draw due the the HIGH current draw of the GP blocks? Im not saying that to be a wise ass all im saying is you would think it would work properly out of the box. Many people including Ted D. had issues with them as well.... I am starting to understand that some people just wont say anything negative about there aristo stuff even if they are having troubles, But in all Honesty those people are just hurting the hobby by being quiet. the manufacture has no reason to repair and upgrade if people dont speek up.
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Im over it at this point that why i didnt point out all the issues with Aristo locos in this thread. Ive grown tired of all the Games, If some of you guys want to buy sub par stuff, then by all means go ahead, its not my money I know better.
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And a final comment, As long as im in the hobby i WILL never say anything good about ARISTO locos because i know exactly what they are, and we will leave it at that.
The proof is on the forums all you need to do is read here and other sites. Im glad you have had good luck but didnt you have to change out your brand new trucks on you GP-40 to get it to lower the amp draw due the the HIGH current draw of the GP blocks? Im not saying that to be a wise ass all im saying is you would think it would work properly out of the box. Many people including Ted D. had issues with them as well.... I am starting to understand that some people just wont say anything negative about there aristo stuff even if they are having troubles, But in all Honesty those people are just hurting the hobby by being quiet. the manufacture has no reason to repair and upgrade if people dont speek up.
Im over it at this point that why i didnt point out all the issues with Aristo locos in this thread. Ive grown tired of all the Games, If some of you guys want to buy sub par stuff, then by all means go ahead, its not my money I know better.
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Posted By blueregal on 19 Mar 2010 05:20 PM
Nick didn't you just buy two chrome E8's the CB&Q's Those are Aristo aren't they???? How they runnin for ya?? Regal
Sure did Jerry, and i ripped them apart already and installed USA motor blocks and have sold the motor blocks for almost as much as i paid for the locos. Theres a dummie born every minute, AAAAAAAAAAA Jerry.......
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and you should see what will becoming from ECLSTS................. Cha Ching...............
Nick didn't you just buy two chrome E8's the CB&Q's Those are Aristo aren't they???? How they runnin for ya?? Regal
Sure did Jerry, and i ripped them apart already and installed USA motor blocks and have sold the motor blocks for almost as much as i paid for the locos. Theres a dummie born every minute, AAAAAAAAAAA Jerry.......
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Posted By NTCGRR on 19 Mar 2010 05:17 PM
OH ,my to dear friends.. play nice now.
Nick knows I'm an Aristo fan
But when I hear this"
"some people just wont say anything negative about there aristo stuff even if they are having troubles, But in all Honesty those people are just hurting the hobby by being quiet. "
Is totally NOT true for a few.
Lewis knows of all my problems and repeat issues. Yet there is a more diplimatic way of dealing with the issue and offering solutions with out making "blanket" statements that causes some new folks to maybe NOT get into the hobby.
The balance between pointing out flaws and encouraging newbies is hard.
I have found that if I keep "promoting the hobby" as my focus, it helps me deal with all people, clubs and issues.
The only reason I even looked at this thread is I saw Ed and Nicks name on the home page. Other than those two being my friends, this is a waste of time and effort thread.
And Marty makes some good points, thats why as of late, I havent commented on a whole bunch of threads, I could have but i didnt. Im learning when you try to help people some times its better to just not.
To each there own...... Everybody has there favorite Manufacture and they will back them to the max no matter what.... and everybody knows Im a USA fan, cause ive gotten nothing but great products from them....... and i will leave it at that.
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And Jerry i never said i wouldnt buy aristo products, but i do know what im buying and what it will need ahead of time. Also i hope Ed doesnt think that i was being disrespeckful to him cause that wasnt my intentions, just wanted to point out my side. I like Ed cause he speaks his mind with fairness.
OH ,my to dear friends.. play nice now.
Nick knows I'm an Aristo fan
But when I hear this"
"some people just wont say anything negative about there aristo stuff even if they are having troubles, But in all Honesty those people are just hurting the hobby by being quiet. "
Is totally NOT true for a few.
Lewis knows of all my problems and repeat issues. Yet there is a more diplimatic way of dealing with the issue and offering solutions with out making "blanket" statements that causes some new folks to maybe NOT get into the hobby.
The balance between pointing out flaws and encouraging newbies is hard.
I have found that if I keep "promoting the hobby" as my focus, it helps me deal with all people, clubs and issues.
The only reason I even looked at this thread is I saw Ed and Nicks name on the home page. Other than those two being my friends, this is a waste of time and effort thread.
And Marty makes some good points, thats why as of late, I havent commented on a whole bunch of threads, I could have but i didnt. Im learning when you try to help people some times its better to just not.
To each there own...... Everybody has there favorite Manufacture and they will back them to the max no matter what.... and everybody knows Im a USA fan, cause ive gotten nothing but great products from them....... and i will leave it at that.
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Please Ron, when you get anywere near the amount of Aristo locos that i have then i will listen to your comments, But rite now in all honesty your comments dont mean SPIT to me as you say.
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Uh O, The Kool-Aid is strong inside of this one..........
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All Aristocraft dealers were sent 6 PR to have a look at and of course they were charged for them, They can sell them or demo what ever they wish but i dont beleive you will see anymore till the end of the year if your lucky. and Scott, I dont think anyone was trying to say anything other than they were just surprised to see them as the Polkyman said they wouldnt be out till the end of the year.
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Posted By Curmudgeon on 08 Oct 2010 12:33 PM
Ya know, you can't have diabetes when reading that stuff.
The sugra coating is too high.
First responder had it right.....most folks can see through the smoke screen.
I don't think he's prepared for folks seeing what they're seeing, tho......
Thats what we call over sea's aid..................Or do we call it KOOL English aid.......... i kid cause well im board tonite...........
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Ya know, you can't have diabetes when reading that stuff.
The sugra coating is too high.
First responder had it right.....most folks can see through the smoke screen.
I don't think he's prepared for folks seeing what they're seeing, tho......
Thats what we call over sea's aid..................Or do we call it KOOL English aid.......... i kid cause well im board tonite...........
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Posted By Johnn on 08 Oct 2010 11:39 AM
I like this site the best cause you can get the truth here and not a bunch of lies. like on another site.
What i find funny is that they all talk smack over there about how this site sucks, But when they want answers they all come here.
I read all the forums and some of these guys really should remember what they post because i do and it really makes some of them look very silly.
This is what someone posted on another forum, but posts here all the time.
[ It's folks like those over on the "other" forum that make me feel bad that I am a part of that forum I hardly post over there now a days due to the liberal type of spin put on there by a select few that seem to get away with doing it and not having their degrading posts yanked off or edited by moderators. About all I ever post on there nowdays is projects I build step by step on the model building forum so others can learn how to kitbash such models. I pretty much don't read their "public" forum let alone dare post there because of the "spin" on things. It's too bad that some carry large chips on their shoulders because of a bad experiance with a model or that a certain model wasn't built or not built overnite. ]
Our club members talk often mostly over breakfast at the Diner and our club President reminded me of a few of these things that happen on different forums, and i just have to say.
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Johnn
It's almost as if you took those words rite out of my mouth.....HE HE HE
I like this site the best cause you can get the truth here and not a bunch of lies. like on another site.
What i find funny is that they all talk smack over there about how this site sucks, But when they want answers they all come here.
I read all the forums and some of these guys really should remember what they post because i do and it really makes some of them look very silly.
This is what someone posted on another forum, but posts here all the time.
[ It's folks like those over on the "other" forum that make me feel bad that I am a part of that forum I hardly post over there now a days due to the liberal type of spin put on there by a select few that seem to get away with doing it and not having their degrading posts yanked off or edited by moderators. About all I ever post on there nowdays is projects I build step by step on the model building forum so others can learn how to kitbash such models. I pretty much don't read their "public" forum let alone dare post there because of the "spin" on things. It's too bad that some carry large chips on their shoulders because of a bad experiance with a model or that a certain model wasn't built or not built overnite. ]
Our club members talk often mostly over breakfast at the Diner and our club President reminded me of a few of these things that happen on different forums, and i just have to say.
Johnn
It's almost as if you took those words rite out of my mouth.....HE HE HE
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Posted By Allan W. Miller on 09 Oct 2010 04:29 AM
There's a handful--and it is a handful--of persistent, vocal whiners and complainers here who do little or nothing to advance the hobby or the reputation of this forum. Too bad they don't find another hobby they can truly enjoy!
And there are a handful of dim witts that try to control the hobby would rather hide the truth and hurt the hobby,
This is what happened in o scale. Dont you people read magazine like that poor one i think its o guage magazine or something like that, that uses the same stories every year just writes them different.
The Editor of that rag should be well.....Hmmmm let me nice now.
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There's a handful--and it is a handful--of persistent, vocal whiners and complainers here who do little or nothing to advance the hobby or the reputation of this forum. Too bad they don't find another hobby they can truly enjoy!
And there are a handful of dim witts that try to control the hobby would rather hide the truth and hurt the hobby,
This is what happened in o scale. Dont you people read magazine like that poor one i think its o guage magazine or something like that, that uses the same stories every year just writes them different.
The Editor of that rag should be well.....Hmmmm let me nice now.
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Posted By Curmudgeon on 09 Oct 2010 03:17 PM
Opening locker.
Removing asbestos flame suit.
Getting into said suit.
Dousing myself with flame retartdant.
Entering bomb bunker.........
now.
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Opening locker.
Removing asbestos flame suit.
Getting into said suit.
Dousing myself with flame retartdant.
Entering bomb bunker.........
now.
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Posted By Johnn on 09 Oct 2010 02:01 PM
Posted By Curmudgeon on 09 Oct 2010 01:23 PM
Posted By livesteam53 on 09 Oct 2010 01:11 PM
I think I will just go back outside and run my trains......and drink a few cold ones!
It's the best you can do.
Waiting for the next release or excuse will put you in your grave.
I don't care.
Either they don't make what I can use, or their quality sux, I've sworn off new purchases from any of them.
And the Plot thickens [ dum dum dummmmmmmmmmmmm ]
Will JJ ever run without a derailment
Will Mr Cozad become KING of large scale
Will Greg get his Revenge
Will Lewis Polk ever recover
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Will Dave ever post a picture of the Bachmann shay drive block i asked for
Will Dwight run for President
Will Aristo Craft ever make some thing that works out of the Box
Will the Mass's that some say are away ever return
These answers and more on the next episode of
As the G Scale World Turns
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I will play can i OK
Not likely
Not likely
Think he got it
Who cares
What !!!!!!!!!!!!
I hope so we need a firm hand up there
When Scott takes over
Dont be fooled there here now
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Posted By Curmudgeon on 09 Oct 2010 01:23 PM
Posted By livesteam53 on 09 Oct 2010 01:11 PM
I think I will just go back outside and run my trains......and drink a few cold ones!
It's the best you can do.
Waiting for the next release or excuse will put you in your grave.
I don't care.
Either they don't make what I can use, or their quality sux, I've sworn off new purchases from any of them.
And the Plot thickens [ dum dum dummmmmmmmmmmmm ]
Will JJ ever run without a derailment
Will Mr Cozad become KING of large scale
Will Greg get his Revenge
Will Lewis Polk ever recover
Will Dave ever post a picture of the Bachmann shay drive block i asked for
Will Dwight run for President
Will Aristo Craft ever make some thing that works out of the Box
Will the Mass's that some say are away ever return
These answers and more on the next episode of
As the G Scale World Turns
Johnn
I will play can i OK
Not likely
Not likely
Think he got it
Who cares
What !!!!!!!!!!!!
I hope so we need a firm hand up there
When Scott takes over
Dont be fooled there here now
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