Posted By 3D-companions on 02/24/2008 6:11 AM
'We are the grey or half hair brigade that maybe can afford what we want.'
I am both grey and half-haired, but I can't afford a single £1000 passenger car.
'I suppose you are suggesting is that there is not point getting involved in the hobby unless you have expensive high fidelity scale models ( flying with eagles stuff)and therefore no point in playing trains. It is the elitest attitude of the established that stops this entertaining hobby from becoming more acceptable. If it looks like a turkey so what?. It is the fun derived from the hobby not simply how much it cost you to get the stuff.'
You have totally missed my point - if you care to actually read what I said without trying to spin it, you will see that I am actually advocating less-expensive models, which will however always be expensive by most people's standards, my own included. I have precisely ONE Aster locomotive,. Not only is it over 25 years old, but it was bought at a bargain price for ANY Aster model. My point is that IF you want an Aster FS and twelve matching LNER teak cars, then you are going to have to PAY the going rate for it - around $20K - THAT is what I am referring to when I note the 'flying with eagles'. I am also a proud turkey, with my twenty-five-year-old LGB Stainz.
'The cost of David Leech's coaches reflect the high quality of his workmanship and his adherence to the best modelling standards. His article on how he builds coaches shows how much work it takes. But it does not mean that his product is the entry level and only acceptable standard of coach construction. There are easier ways which cost less. '
I never said that Mr Leech's models were entry level - again, if you read what I said you will see that there is another UK-based builder who makes 'steel-bodied' passenger coaches of a more simplified style at a lesser cost - BUT - you will NOT get varnished teak coaches with all their complex beading and Gresley trucks at the same price as a steel body model. However [and I bow to your obviously greater knowledge here], please share with us the method of making less easier and less costly Gauge 1 models of these amazingly complicated LNER carriages, the subject of this part of the thread.
'I would suggest the the makers of Aristocraft would also take exception to your view. It does not have to cost a fortune to be enjoyable. It only has to look like the real thing to be acceptable to most none rivet counters. The Accucraft Flying Scotsman is a superb model but even that engine will not satisfy the rivet counters, after all it is not a real steam engine but it does cost a fraction of what a Aster Flying Scotsman cost. '
I could care less who takes exception, you, or anybody else, particularly where there is no reason to do so. And how can something 'look like the real thing' without being a faithful representation of the real thing?
Aristo-Craft is not now, and unlikely to ever be in the market to produce LNER teak coaches to go with somebody else's models in a scale they do not make. The Accucraft FS is a truly superb model - not only do I agree, but if you again take the trouble to look, you will see that I was the person who actually started this thread way back when. And incidentally, I have fifteen of Aristo-Craft's fine-looking diesels./DesktopModules/NTForums/themes/mls/emoticons/ermm.gif
'Come on, live and let live.'
BTW - Welcome to the forum.
Owner of Accucraft, Aristo-Craft, Aster, Bachmann, LGB, Maerklin and USA Trains - in no particular order except alphabetical.