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Greetings...I'm a bit frustrated at the moment trying to use this sites search function and coming up empty handed. So I'm just going to post this question to everyone.

I have several Piko building kits that I want to start building and want to know what you recommend from experience as a solid glue for plastic structures. I'm wary of the glue that is included with the kits and I certainly want something that will withstand the outdoors really well.

I appreciate your thoughts.

Richard
 
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I can recommend one type of glue. Sinbad- I built several Colorado Model buildings 5 years ago, and glued them together with Sinbad glue. They have been outdoors since then, and not one joint has separated. Summer and winter in Delaware, and one year in the Utah desert. Because the sun is so intense here I will bring them in for a couple of months now, to preserve the paint, but the glue joints are totally good.

Sinbad is the bomb.
 
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In the office we always use Loctite products. I would give Loctite a call and ask their engineers! Just tell them what you are trying to do, and they will recommend something perfect! They always do! They will probably even send you a sample to try!
Their consumer phone number is: 800-624-7767
If you have trouble finding it, you can always order it from www.mcmaster.com
 
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He can't get MEK in Calif... but I'd look for Ambroid ProWeld.
Stan posted Piko glue in the super glue thread that he likes.

When doing searches here use Google or Bing; Site; MyLargeScale, subject; out door plastic glue. Give it a try.

John
 
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Thanks for the glue suggestions...Question though...Is the key finding something that softens the plastic thus causing the two pieces to fuse together?? I have several structures to build and wanted to do them correctly. So I appreciate your suggestions. Where I live in the Central Valley it is sometimes hard to find some of this stuff. I actually have some of the Loctite glue in a gel that I might try.

Stan...our weather is similar to yours there in AZ. I'll have to look for Plumbers Goop also...wonder if Home Depot sells it??

Thanks,
Richard
 
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I've tried just about everything and am now standardized on E6000. I've also had good luck using Goop for Marine use.

Here is a good link:
http://www.eclecticproducts.com/e6000_retail.htm

E6000 used to only come in clear, but I see now they also have white and black. I would think black would actually work better for outdoors since it should be better UV protection.

Regards,
Mark

http://mmg-garden-rr.webs.com/
 
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When you talk about glue, do you mean superglue? This can be used if you plan to disassemble the buildings after a while but you take the risk of "frosting".
If you want to permanently glue the model together you need a polycement which melts and fuses the plastic. I use the faller poly cament with the needle, easy to use and clean as you can ontrol how much glue you put on. Otherwise loctite is good, not sure which one as i only use the resin glue from loctite which is not suitable for buildings outside.
If you want really good connection and stability try plastic welding.
Kind regards Michael
 
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You can still buy real MEK in California at any TAP Plastics store. We no longer sell the 5 gallon cans but still have plenty of 1 gallon cans in stock. While there, get some 1/16" thick acrylic to use as windows as the styrene used in the kits fogs up and yellows quite quickly. The acrylic will hold up for many years. TAP also sells E-6000. I used the black in the construction of by trestle and bridges with fantastic results.

I used MEK, Weld-On #16 and Weld-On #3 for my Pola and Piko kit construction. These solvents melt and weld the plastic in the kits together.

Russ Miiler
TAP Plastics
 
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Posted By Stan Cedarleaf on 26 Jun 2013 08:44 AM
Richard.... I've used Plumbers Goop on Pola and Piko buildings outside for years.. It seems to hold together very nicely in the heat, sun, wind, rain, snow and cold here in the Arizona high desert..





Stan is this the stuff they use on the PVC pipe? The stuff that lloks like a dye?
The stuff you get say at Home Depot, lowes, Menards?

Bubba
 
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Bubba,
PVC glue comes with the purple primer, it's a solvent type with a thicker body. Different from Goop
Goop comes in a tube with a screw top.

John
 
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So plumbers goop is different? Never heard of plummer goop......

I have used goop, with not really good results in other applications.

My question is does the PVC glue, with the purple primer work on G scale model buildings?

bubba
 
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The PVC plumbers glue with the purple primer will work, but it won't hold up well outdoors. I tried using this some years back and after being outside for a year, the seams on those buildings started to come apart. I then switched over to E6000 and have been happy with it's results. I suspect the UV broke the glue down. I live in northern Ohio, so we also have snow and freezing weather to contend with.


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Mark
http://mmg-garden-rr.webs.com/
 
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