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#44 ·
WOOW I was away from the computer for 24 hours and look at the post???
Man we need to promote the hobby this strongly.....
 
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#45 ·
Posted By NTCGRR on 06 May 2012 08:21 AM
WOOW I was away from the computer for 24 hours and look at the post???
Man we need to promote the hobby this strongly.....
Wow, ain't that the truth! I got involved in a couple of these in the past weeks and I finally came to the decision that there is waaaay too much apologizing goin' on HERE
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and we need to get back to trains and building "things", whatever they may be.
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I've been on Large Scale Central this week helping a guy in New Mexico, build an octogon pitched roof for his friend's 1/8th scale railroad water tank. That's what THIS place should be about.
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#47 ·
I always laugh at these kinds of threads.

One of the greatest lies ever told in Kindergarten was that ANYTHING in life would be "fair".

The best you can hope for on ANY web board is a mostly benign despotism.

Beyond that, I think as a society we've also forgotten how to disagree without being disagreeable. If we're honest with ourselves, we'd also have to admit that we prefer to only hear from folks with whom we agree. Having to actually intellectually explain and defend your own absurdities and emotional kneejerk decisions IS pretty frustrating. Even worse is when you run up against somebody else just as pigheaded stubborn, irrational, and irritating as you are. A general rule of thumb is when you are talking you aren't listening, when you are shouting you aren't thinking. If folks could remember that their scriptures are to guide them, not to beat others over the head with. And that no political party has a lock on truth, love of country... or blatant arrogant stupidity, then there wouldn't even be a need for blanket bans to begin with
 
#49 ·
People today are very often offended by things that are not actually offensive
Scot,
Respectfully - by definition, if they take offense then it is offensive - to them. It's all relative, not absolute.


One of the greatest lies ever told in Kindergarten was that ANYTHING in life would be "fair".
Right On! My Dad was always saying "but life ISN'T fair" and I passed the same wisdom on to my kids!


To get back to the point (seeing as how everyone else has jumped in)
As for John mentioning the name of the group he was going on this humanitary outing
I thought it odd that John would want to post such a topic in our forums, but he obviously wanted to share his interest, and he did flag it OT I believe. It never even registered that he had included the name of the church. It was just like he posted the name of the ship that took him there, or whatever.
 
#50 ·
Posted By Pete Thornton on 06 May 2012 12:19 PM
People today are very often offended by things that are not actually offensive
Scot,
Respectfully - by definition, if they take offense then it is offensive - to them. It's all relative, not absolute.



Good point! ;)
but there was another aspect to my post that I guess I didn't clarify very well..
often, when people *say* they are offended, they actually aren't..they are just using "im offended" as an excuse to be a jerk! ;)
they *want* to be a jerk, but in order to be a jerk, they have to blame the other person for their own jerky post, so they attempt to make
being a jerk not their fault, so they cloak it in "I'm offended"..


thats basically what I meant by "they are offended by something that is not actually offensive"..in reality, they are not offended at all..
they just want an excuse to be a jerk on an internet forum..any excuse will do, except admitting they are just a jerk! ;)
that never happens..so "im offended" becomes a convenient excuse..


(and, to further clarify, I am NOT referring to anyone specific on MLS! or to anyone in this particular thread..I have completely lost track of who said what, or who was offended by what or who wasn't offended by what..im speaking in general, generic terms, as a member of MANY internet discussion forums..)


Scot
 
#51 ·
often, when people *say* they are offended, they actually aren't..they are just using "im offended" as an excuse to be a jerk! ;)
Hey Scot, that's a bit convoluted, and doesn't make a lot of sense.

Are you trying to say that people "act" offended when really they aren't? More P.C. in operation? Or do you think it is something else? Or what do you mean?
 
#52 ·
"Public notices, rants and raves, this is the general use forum. Please try to keep posts somewhat train related and avoid religion and politics!!"

Just mentioning religion is not discussing it...I think it was exceptable, anything more then yes it is not keeping with the guidelines.

Reference had to be made because of the missionary work that was being explained, with the dissclaimer "OT".

Maybe the offended poster just doesn't care for the religion used in the offending post....Anyway I like to hear about the above and beyond thigs people do for others now a days, as it goes on sometimes very little.

If i don't like something, I just fast forward by it, if not I WILL add my 2 cents, because I can...If I have to see yours you will have to see mine, add to it or pass by it.


I do not like to talk about religion ANYWHERE because this is what happens.

Bubba
 
#54 ·
Maybe because I am still "slightly slushy" from last evening -but last night was the 14th annie of the first date with the person who was to become my wife. We were introduced to each other by a mutual friend who used to be called "James"... The differing religions (on my side of the family) have never been important -but on her side they really are!!! At our Wedding The Grooms "Best Man" was a Deacon of the "New Apostolic Church"(!) The bridal party (on the Grooms side) included : A Buddhist, 3 Methodists, 2 Siha Muslims, 2 Anglicans, 2 Russian Orthodox, 1 Serbian Orthodox, 1 Zoroastrian and family members.

I think the best thing about it was said by my (then) 10 year old son. "Daddy spells his religion with an "E" -and Mummy doesn't".

regards

ralph
 
#56 ·
I am sorry I created such a controversy.

I only wanted to express my excitement about the trip we were going on. And it turned out even more wonderful than I ever thought it could have been.

In November the group will be going to Northern Guatemala. I amm hoping that I can save enough money to go with them. They do this twice a year and quite a few of the people on this trip had done between 10 and 20 prrevious trips.

This trip was so successful that the organizers have been asked if they can do three trips a year and include another country.

Roatan Island was really nice. However, prices were much higher than in Guatemala and the shops would not lower prices hardly at all.

We went to a Monkey farm and played with Capuchian White Faced Monkeys and Macaws. It was a good trip. My wife did the Zip Line the next day. I took a tour of the island. Then we snorkled in the ocean.

Some of our group swam with the Dolphins.

We stayed at Infinity Bay Resort, a 5 star resort. A giigantic swimming pool ran the entirre length of the resort down to the ocean. The lalst time the group stayed here some of the doctors bought time shares which were reasonably priced only to find out that the airplane trip from the states would cost them about 1200 dollars each.

In Guatemala we stayed at the Grand Tikal Futura hotel in Guatemala City. IT was also a beautiful hotel.

It was rrecommended that we not wander the streets in Guatemala since it could be very unsafe to do so.

The building we held our clinic in was gaurded by two gaurds wth sawed off shotguns. Armed gaurds were in many of the businesses.

We shopped at ShopMart which was much larger than the largest CostCo I have ever seen. The same was true of the Walmart much bigger than our Super Walmart.

John
 
#57 ·
John. there's nothing like the experience of spending time in other cultures of the world to broaden our perspective, gain new friends, help others, increase our knowledge and be so aware of how blessed we are to live in the US.

Glad you and Sharon had such a great trip.
 
#58 ·
JB, quit apologizing as you did nothing wrong.

Actually, you put some life in this website as it gets pretty boring at time and needs something to get people stirred up.

Yes it's the trains that should be stirring things up, but historically, it's the controversies that get more people talking than the trains.

If you read back through all the post on this thread, the large majority of the posts fell you did nothing wrong.

The rest have there opinion and that's ok.

We should all accept that we don't agree on everything.

As far as being fair.

Not everything is fair.

None of us get everything our way.
 
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