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Anyone have any idea when the QSI "Titan" Sound boards are going to be available?

I had ordered a new board for my K-27 back in Dec. At that point it was going to be the old Q2, but the place I bought it from said they were going to wait until the "new" board came out and send me that one, at no extra charge.

Well I know there have been delays by QSI, but boy I'd like to get it sometime soon.
 
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Try next October..Maybe

Seems that the QSI/TTE propaganda machine has been working overtime to pump people up with a product that's still in the development stage.

Titan DCC is now scheduled for October release if we're lucky.

Sound will not be 16bit, but 64bit, yes 64bit. It will have Stereo output (ie - 2 speaker outputs, where you're gonna want to fit if possible, one LF and one HF speaker inside.

Overall, I was informed and impressed. Titan is still in the breadboard stage and is awaiting some further testing.
 
#6 ·
Well I hate to bust your Balls there Mr Harry Ballz,

But your information is far from correct. To say that the decoder is in breadboard form is far from the truth. It was in breadboard form over a year ago. Early release units are now starting to be shown at Private showings all over the country. As a matter of fact, a good friend of mine was at one last night, and people were going crazy over the decoder. People were offering $500 to $1000 for the one that was there. OEM's from around the world are lining up to install them in their products, and those production lines won't wait. There are companies who are investing millions into this, and for good reason.

So I would suggest that you go back to whoever you got your information from, and let them know that they are way off base, and shouldn't be telling what they don't know.

Loco Lee
 
#7 ·
All,

I called QSI and the standard large scale decoder will be out in late May, early June with the one that can handle the USA engines out in July time frame. Looking forward to getting one.
 
#8 ·
Thanks for the info Rich.
I have 2 QSI Sound Boards now, and can't wait to get some more soon, As i feel QSI is the SUPERIOR sound and control system in Large scale .

Like MTH says DCC Is the most and best used Control system in all scales.

Fred
 
#9 ·
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#10 ·
People were offering $500 to $1000 for the one that was there. OEM's from around the world are lining up to install them in their products, and those production lines won't wait. There are companies who are investing millions into this, and for good reason.

You keep talking like that and we're going to have to start calling you Lewis Lee.
 
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Posted By Loco Lee on 16 Apr 2011 09:04 AM
... There are companies who are investing millions into this, and for good reason.;;;



Millions of what...cause it sure can't be dollars. There's no ROI that would warrant that that I can see.
 
#12 ·
Yes Dollars.

The market for decoders is much larger than G, or large scale. It takes over a quarter of a million, just to make the body of an HO model. There are over 100,000 Large scale modelers in the world, and we are just a drop in the bucket when you talk about the number of locomotives built world wide. Large scale is way less than 1% of total model sales world wide. Of all the Large Scale, or G Scale decoders sold or built by QSI. I'd bet that they are way less than 1/2 of 1% of the total production of QSI. I've talked with people about building my own locomotives, and have been told that if I don't have at least 2 million, to not even think about it. MTH has spent over 10 Million on his sound system, so for me to say that QSI, and others are spending millions, That's nothing.

Loco Lee
 
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One thing that will show who will succeed in this market is the companies that are "big enough" to put the bucks in for development.

QSI makes decoders for all scales, and as Lee stated, G scale sales are a drop in the bucket, so we get the advantage of all that development money for a larger market. (The basic development of the custom chip, software, etc.)

The Sierra could not continue because it was large scale only.

I keep wondering how Phoenix hangs on, they should have added a motor decoder long ago... I think their time "alive" will be short.

Soundtraxx has clearly demonstrated the priority of large scale units, even though they are using all the Tsunami technology, the first venture lacked the proper engineering development to work well in large scale. There is a new board, so maybe they have solved those problems, but they are like QSI, primarily smaller scales.

Regards, Greg
 
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I think there's a huge Phoenix fan base since they've been the leader so long in large scale. In fact, I don't know anyone in Sacramento who uses QSI or Zimo. I'm sure there are people, I just don't know them. It's all Phoenix or Sierra among garden railroaders I know. But I think QSI and Zimo will be the big players in the future, unless Phoenix catches up with their technology.

I'm not decided between QSI and Zimo yet, but I think those are the only two practical choices. Not having a motor decoder in the Phoenix systems makes them more expensive and less feature rich.
 
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Posted By Greg Elmassian on 02 May 2011 10:43 AM
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I keep wondering how Phoenix hangs on, they should have added a motor decoder long ago... I think their time "alive" will be short. ....


Well, if you're just thinking in terms of DCC, that may be true. Just keep in mind that DCC is still just one segment of an already very small large scale market. There are still plenty of DC track power and battery power users that are more than happy to keep using Phoenix. Like many others, I've never seen or heard a Zimo or QSI, because I don't run DCC. We only have one DCC user in our club of 43.
 
#16 ·
No, Del, I am looking at the entire hobby.

Like you say, it's a very small market. So it's difficult to make a product that is an even smaller piece of a small market.

The DCC decoder-based sound units are all (except Phoenix) more powerful output versions of the HO decoders already made by these companies.

Therefore the R&D (except for the larger output transistors) is spread over a much larger profit base in these companies.

Phoenix is pretty much only large scale, although I would guess some O scale too. So to redesign a new unit is a lot of R&D money for a small market, as opposed to SoundTraxx making a new Tsunami and selling it to N, HO, S, and O scales...

That's my take... I just wonder how long they can keep profitable before they are forced to redesign fundamental parts of the product...

(p.s. I have heard Sierra, Phoenix, Dallee, etc, and I don't run battery, no excuse ha ha!!!)

Regards, Greg
 
#17 ·
If Phoenix added a Susi interface that would go a long way to helping them compete with the integrated sound decoders in DCC. Massoth offers their sound only decoder for use with DC or DCC, and it has the Susi interface, but as far as I know there aren't many other standalone sound units that do this. Dietz I believe does which is why they are quite popular in Europe as well. All that being said, I believe there is an advantage to using an integrated sound decoder even in DC. You can have soft starts, proper chuff timing with things like smoke makers via Susi etc., so you don't have to be running DCC to get many of the advantages. If you ever make the switch to DCC, or want to run at a friend's place who has DCC, you're all set.

Keith
 
#18 ·
I was all excited about SUSI when I first saw it in use between Lenz and Dietz years ago...

But it's really impossible to compete with 2 separate circuit boards and 2 microprocessors when one can do the job.

In the US, there's precious few motor decoders that have SUSI, and of those that are available, the support and documentation is usually in a foreign language.

I completely agree that running an integrated motor and sound decoder on DC has a lot of advantages. Many people are surprised when they run their DCC decoder on DC... they know it works on DC, but all the sounds and momentum, etc also still works.

I enable DC on all my locos... so if they must be run on DC, at least they will sound good!

Greg
 
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