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Just think! Before there was Google, there were books. Encyclopedia for example, remember them? Ever heard of them, you younger folks? We actually had to open one and look in the index for a topic, then read it, oh my god, the pain of it.
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Or, we had to go to a library (real legwork) and be around other people, uhhhhh!!!!
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And to do all of this we didn't have to push any buttons, or rely on electricity that may not always be there.
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What would one do if one actually had to read a map?
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Les, I'm going to miss that pic of a derail! lol

Common sense can go along way.
Simple guides for thread control;
1. Technical; the straight and narrow, sidebars allowed, but identified and perhaps moved.
2. General info... hang on for the ride... lol

People will take a suggestion better than a direction...
Regarding #5 of Richards post... We will still root (to ourselves) for the best answer to be chosen! lol The Peanut Gallery lives!

I had a reply from Tech to an email... No sir, if you can't make a phone call your DSL won't work.....I e-mailed him back that it did seem to work.... Turns out my obsolete modem was shot!

John
 
Posted By SteveC on 09 Sep 2009 08:51 PM
"Strength is irrelevant. Resistance is futile. We wish to improve ourselves. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service ours."[/i]
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Unfortunately, it is all too often the other way around...

" WE wish to improve YOU. We will add OUR biological and technological distinctiveness to YOUR own."
 
Gregg, comments below after /// ...

Posted By Greg Elmassian on 09 Sep 2009 07:33 PM
Les, it's a forum and everyone is entitled to their opinion.

/// Yes.... (waiting)

If your opinion is that a thread wandering is fine, so be it...

/// disingenuous fog for the following....


(although it's considered bad form in most forums)... but I am likewise entitled to my opinion, and I can give you several reasons why it's not "cool".... the biggest reason is that the forum is like a giant wikipedia of information for everyone.

/// Punchline: Wandering is considered uncouth in 'most'....


The search function lets you TRY to find information, but when a thread goes sideways, then it gets right back to what JJ complained about, google something and get 50,000 "answers" that are not helpful. (because your search finds threads that have gone sideways)

/// A minor mixing of subjects, Google, John's post, and my opinion, but heck, who's picking?

Thinking of others and keeping an interesting, technical thread on topic helps everyone, the people reading it now, and the people reading it in the future. This is not putting down humor, which I personally think is useful in all threads.

/// Let us (and you, in particular,) always remember to be careful to keep other's desires ahead of your own or....

There are good reasons to follow the common "rules" applied to the majority of internet forums.

/// Another appeal to higher authority....

So, again, it is a forum, where everyone has a voice.

/// Which logically negates the gist of the poster's position.... save for the 'poor manners'.


Regards, Greg

/// Gregg, is it as hot an humid where you are as it is here? Gosh, I only stated an opinion. I meant precisely what I said and won't repeat it again save in condensed form: a moderator can admonish me about wandering and that's his right. Another person doing so is perceived by me to be telling me what I can't do in an area where I've paid my dues to be.

Perhaps you've read certain threads I've started (usually in 'Tools') and someone has jumped in, the thread begins to weave another pattern, perhaps in the direction of uncovering unknown facts, then the guy jumps back in and apologizes for hijacking my thread. I invariably reply that it isn't 'my' thread and I don't care. And I don't.

The observation has often been made that threads 'evolve' along natural lines; I find this to be the case, usually unless humor crops up. For an unauthorized member to request the thread 'shape up' is not warranted, save in the thin instance that he considers the thread 'his', since he's the author.

Many have remarked that this is a friendly forum. It is so, I think, because most of the members make a conscious effort to keep it friendly. Regimentation of the type you appear to like will tend to stifle that atmosphere.

Of all the possible LS forums out there, this is the only one that has gotten my money, and it isn't just because all the best help is to be found here. The kidding/humor/fraternity is here but exists in short bursts so business can be conducted.

Some lightweight diversionary 'slack in the line' or relevant digressions should never have to be defended against usurpation by the unauthorized.

Les
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Posted By SteveC on 09 Sep 2009 08:51 PM
"Strength is irrelevant. Resistance is futile. We wish to improve ourselves. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service ours."[/i]
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Be my guest. You better have lotsa penicillin, though.
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Ol' Vulp
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And I will defend your right to your opinion Les and I will respect you opinion even if I don't agree with it.... and mine is likewise an opinion... hopefully I can enjoy some reciprocity

I would not term the references I made an appeal to a higher authority, just a statement of what I have found. I am a moderator or owner of about 7 forums. I have legitimate and long term experience with forums. Should this forum be a clone of the "average" Internet forum? Who knows.

What I do know is rules/guidelines that make a forum better. I will stress again, with all the information here, it is like a giant database... and keeping informational posts "true" makes searches for information, by newbies and by regulars better/easier/functional.

In my opinion, that fact alone is important enough for me to try to follow that advice.

Regards, Greg
 
Posted By Torby on 09 Sep 2009 07:55 AM
Think that's annoying? Try Microsoft's BING. I often look for technical information, but somehow BING thinks I'm an investor.

I think letting Microsoft (Bing) making decisions for me is ... is ... is unpronounceable.

Are you sure?
(Click OK)
 
Okay...."Let's get focused people!" ;) hehe!

No one has thanked Del for the cute link. Everyone has wandered off subject. Gad!

so....Hey, neat link Del. Thanks much! There, I hope you've all learned a lesson here and it really was a neat link.
 
As I was reading this interesting thread, I had a thought come to mind: has anyone else noticed there were some interesting hairstyles to come out of the 1970s?

In this era, the Mullet was starting out (credit to Ziggy Stardust?) with the "Natural Blowdry" and the Shag being quite popular. Two more cuts we could include are the Disco Wedge and the Afro. All of these excluding maybe the disco (limited) come in and out of mainstream fashion from time to time to this day.

I was also thinking that the Page Boy was common for kids, both boys and girls.

Thanks for the DLS link also. Now I know what day to sit and look at the atomic clock and watch it jump!
 
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Posted By Spule 4 on 10 Sep 2009 08:37 PM
... Thanks for the DLS link also. Now I know what day to sit and look at the atomic clock and watch it jump!

Funny you should mention that. I once worked for the National Bureau of Standardsat the WWV/WWVB radio station in Ft. Collins. I had the privilege of inserting a "leap second" into the year (??? 1972 ???). Hams and other "time nerds" around the world were just waiting for it!!
 
Garrett,

Fascinating. Do you have any pics of these hairstyles? I suppose I could Google 'em ... but have you noticed how hard it is to find information that way? Perhaps it's just me. Someone should post about that problem, huh, maybe?
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Ol' Vulp
 
I think that the #1 rule for the hobby -- as well as for this forum -- is don't tell the other kids what toys they should play with or how they have to play with them, short of pointing out particularly destructive behavior (hitting me in the head with your Aster, running your boiler dry, or using motor oil in the lubricator).

It is hard for persons at different points along the spectrum of experience to agree upon what is a reasonable question, and even if it is something that "all right thinking people know," that doesn't mean a prospect isn't waiting to be converted. Patience, please. Dumb as I am, it could well be me.

When I first got on the internet, 10 or 12 years ago, I ran a search for "large scale model trains." The #1 reply was about "models" with large bosoms that like to pull trains. I guess this is like the videos of the oriental guy pulling a bus with his teeth? Reminiscent of the translation computer, that turned "Out of sight, out of mind" into "blind and insane." Some supervision required.

Regards, Mike
 
Posted By Les on 11 Sep 2009 07:31 AM
Garrett,

Fascinating. Do you have any pics of these hairstyles? I suppose I could Google 'em ... but have you noticed how hard it is to find information that way? Perhaps it's just me. Someone should post about that problem, huh, maybe?
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Ol' Vulp
Les, I would love to give you some guidance on some photos, and I could post the link of Google Images search for "1970s hair styles", but I am now working on the link between the High Top Fade and mid 1980s to 1990s TV. I have managed to find a brief overlap of the hairstyle on both the first season of Fresh Prince of Bel Air and fourth through seventh seasons on The Cosby Show.

.....and I am willing to bet that without the interenet, I could not have made this very important discovery.
 
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