American Large Scale compatible with Gauge 3 British Outline
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I guess they are much the same scale? 1:20.3 for the K, what is the gauge 3?
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From Cumberland Model Engineering:
Gauge 3 is one of the oldest model train track gauges, dating back to 1891 when it was among four original model track gauges created by pioneering German toy maker Marklin (Gauges 1, 2, 3 & 4). Known more commonly in the United States as simply 1/2" scale or 2.5" gauge, it represents the 4'-8 1/2" standard gauge trains of the real world using a model track gauge of 2.5" (63.5mm) between the rails, and in its long history, has been associated with several different scales, in ascending order of precision: 1/2" = 1', 17/32" = 1' or most precisely 1:22.6.
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Gauge 3 is one of the oldest model train track gauges, dating back to 1891 when it was among four original model track gauges created by pioneering German toy maker Marklin (Gauges 1, 2, 3 & 4). Known more commonly in the United States as simply 1/2" scale or 2.5" gauge, it represents the 4'-8 1/2" standard gauge trains of the real world using a model track gauge of 2.5" (63.5mm) between the rails, and in its long history, has been associated with several different scales, in ascending order of precision: 1/2" = 1', 17/32" = 1' or most precisely 1:22.6.
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Dear Greg,
The gauge / scale terminology seems to be even more confusing than you write.
In Germany;
"H0" = Half zero = 16mm, UK "00" Introduced as manufacturing methods improved. Took off after WW2 I understand.
Gauge 0 = 32mm model track gauge. Standard 1435mm gauge prototypes modelled at 1:45. (In the UK used for 2 foot gauge at scale???, some models are regaugable inbetween 45mm and 32mm. A friend of mine has India Himalayan engine and coaches produced this way.)
Gauge 1 = 45mm, associated with prototype standard gauge 1435mm modelled at 1:32 (UK 1:30,5 US 1:29)
Gauge "2m" = still model track gauge 45mm, but used for narrow gauge prototype "Meterspur" 1000mm at a modelling scale of 1:22,5. This is LGB narrow gauge prototype models. Also known as "Fn3" in the US. Also, sometimes other narrow gauges are aproximated, like 750mm etc. And lately, standard gauge 1435mm are modelled at some kind of approximate variable scale - often different regarding length and hight and width! :-D - this is PIKO and LGB standard gauge prototypes. Importantly, the "models" are intermixable in size and operations with the narrow gauge prototypes.
Gauge 2 = 64mm model track gauge, representing standard gauge 1435mm prototypes at 1:22,5 How on earth this model track also goes under the name "Gauge 3" in the UK is unkown to me. It's VERY CONFUSING ;-D ! It's better to use "Gauge 2,5" ", which avoids this confusion.
Also, what would "Gauge 2" be in the US and UK???!!!
Some people model prototype operations where standard gauge and narrow gauge intermixed, sometimes on the same trackbed. Then combinations of 45 & 32mm or 64 & 45mm track is used.
If Maerklin used "Gauge 3 & 4", it would be interesting to know what track gauges they used.
Hope this helps :-D
BTW Th ebasic problem is using the word "gauge" wich should only denote track width, to also include a modelling scale. Gauge and scale should be used separately.
The gauge / scale terminology seems to be even more confusing than you write.
In Germany;
"H0" = Half zero = 16mm, UK "00" Introduced as manufacturing methods improved. Took off after WW2 I understand.
Gauge 0 = 32mm model track gauge. Standard 1435mm gauge prototypes modelled at 1:45. (In the UK used for 2 foot gauge at scale???, some models are regaugable inbetween 45mm and 32mm. A friend of mine has India Himalayan engine and coaches produced this way.)
Gauge 1 = 45mm, associated with prototype standard gauge 1435mm modelled at 1:32 (UK 1:30,5 US 1:29)
Gauge "2m" = still model track gauge 45mm, but used for narrow gauge prototype "Meterspur" 1000mm at a modelling scale of 1:22,5. This is LGB narrow gauge prototype models. Also known as "Fn3" in the US. Also, sometimes other narrow gauges are aproximated, like 750mm etc. And lately, standard gauge 1435mm are modelled at some kind of approximate variable scale - often different regarding length and hight and width! :-D - this is PIKO and LGB standard gauge prototypes. Importantly, the "models" are intermixable in size and operations with the narrow gauge prototypes.
Gauge 2 = 64mm model track gauge, representing standard gauge 1435mm prototypes at 1:22,5 How on earth this model track also goes under the name "Gauge 3" in the UK is unkown to me. It's VERY CONFUSING ;-D ! It's better to use "Gauge 2,5" ", which avoids this confusion.
Also, what would "Gauge 2" be in the US and UK???!!!
Some people model prototype operations where standard gauge and narrow gauge intermixed, sometimes on the same trackbed. Then combinations of 45 & 32mm or 64 & 45mm track is used.
If Maerklin used "Gauge 3 & 4", it would be interesting to know what track gauges they used.
Hope this helps :-D
BTW Th ebasic problem is using the word "gauge" wich should only denote track width, to also include a modelling scale. Gauge and scale should be used separately.
Gauge 0 = 32mm model track gauge. Standard 1435mm gauge prototypes modelled at 1:45. (In the UK used for 2 foot gauge at scale???, some models are regaugable inbetween 45mm and 32mm. A friend of mine has India Himalayan engine and coaches produced this way.)
The scale is 1:19 16mm [ 5/8" ] to the foot ie 1 1/4" / 32mm = 2 feet
Shaun
The scale is 1:19 16mm [ 5/8" ] to the foot ie 1 1/4" / 32mm = 2 feet
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Thank you TLR!
You are right of course! Just like the French king found it, some very yers before beeing beheaded, when his exploratory comission found out there where 600 (!) different length measures used in France, urging the metric system be installed, i find "10mm to the foot" beeing just the most horrible conjunction of systems imaginable... :-D
You are right of course! Just like the French king found it, some very yers before beeing beheaded, when his exploratory comission found out there where 600 (!) different length measures used in France, urging the metric system be installed, i find "10mm to the foot" beeing just the most horrible conjunction of systems imaginable... :-D
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(Besides this thread sort of, I can appreciate the mathematical beaty of the Imperial system. But when calipers show decimal measurements like 0,2 inches - wtf!?! And "number drills" and "BA screws" - are you kidding me?!? That's just morose, in my view... ;-D )
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