Has any one posted that USA has announced a die cast Northern and a line of Heavyweights.
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Got the email from Charles Ro yesterday.
Have not found on USAT site or Charles Ro site yet.
Really want to know minimum track radius for the northern.
Greg
Have not found on USAT site or Charles Ro site yet.
Really want to know minimum track radius for the northern.
Greg
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Its been all over the facebook groups. In fact, I saw it so many times this morning I didnt even notice it wasnt posted here until this thread.
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I wonder if they are the old Aristo heavyweights??
Charles Ro have also just received a new batch of the streamline coaches. My NYC baggage is finally on the way.
Charles Ro have also just received a new batch of the streamline coaches. My NYC baggage is finally on the way.
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Pete, I doubt it, if you read the features "document" you will see they are different.
1. length 33.5" (makes them scale 80', Aristo are 72')
2. die cast "cushioned" coupler (like the streamliners)
3. rubber diaphragms (Aristo were hard plastic)
4. coupler lift bar, air hoses
5. lighted drum head on observation car, illuminated markers, and METAL railings
6. die cast metal trucks
7. fold down vestibule step
Those particular features convince me that these are all new.
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1. length 33.5" (makes them scale 80', Aristo are 72')
2. die cast "cushioned" coupler (like the streamliners)
3. rubber diaphragms (Aristo were hard plastic)
4. coupler lift bar, air hoses
5. lighted drum head on observation car, illuminated markers, and METAL railings
6. die cast metal trucks
7. fold down vestibule step
Those particular features convince me that these are all new.
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Half? even that is crazy-expensive for the majority of G-scalers im sure..
more like 10% for me, before we even approach reality.
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That's lottery money to me. I gave up playing the lottery a long time ago. So, I'll just have to be happy running my 2-4-0 LGB Steamers.
I hear ya! But I knew what ever they were going to produce it was going to be die cast and in the prestige series. Was just hoping it would be somewhat in reach so I could get something new from them, guess I will keep waiting.
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Scot, $370 for a die cast northern?
$1200 list on Bachman NG plastic locos..
Aristo Craft was never that cheap LIST price.
The heavyweights are a reasonable price, will be buying a complete set, even though my Aristo heavyweights are 72' long, still have always wanted the full 80 footers.
My Aristo set will be going up for sale now.
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$1200 list on Bachman NG plastic locos..
Aristo Craft was never that cheap LIST price.
The heavyweights are a reasonable price, will be buying a complete set, even though my Aristo heavyweights are 72' long, still have always wanted the full 80 footers.
My Aristo set will be going up for sale now.
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Where do I find the information on these?
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I didnt mean $370 for a die cast Northern specifically..
sure, a die cast Northern is going to be multi-thousands of dollars..no problem.
I just meant $370 in general, for any locomotive, diesel, steam, whatever, before i'm a buyer.
and even that is still high..im more of a $250 buyer.
but to each their own..
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Release April 2018. We'll see.
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"Now" ? When the new ones aren't "due" until April 2018? And if you believe they will come on that date, you haven't been paying attention for the past 10 years.
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I wonder if this is another USA Trains list vs dealer price. The streamline coaches are $499 on USATrains.com, but $299 at Charles Ro. The SD70MAC is $729 list but $434 at Charles Ro. On that basis, the Northern should list for about $2,250. That seems reasonable, as the Hudson was $1995.
The flaw in that argument is that the flyer lists the heavyweight coaches for $299, which is about where the streamliners sit. Can't believe they will sell at Charles Ro for $176 !!
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OK, Scot, I get that you want to buy a locomotive for $350 or $250... good for you.
Having that expectation of a model of this quality (based on the USAT Hudson and Big Boy) is not realistic, so you will never buy a locomotive like this. In fact you won't buy much of anything new, right? No offense, I just don't see why you would even post something like that. Are you mad at the industry?
On the other hand, yes, this is an expensive loco, a plastic one of lesser quality though would still be most likely around $1,400 list, comparing it to Bachmann and the last list price of the last Aristo steamer, the Consolidation.
My guess is that the street price will be lower, but this will never be an inexpensive loco.
Pete: I surely hope that the street price of the Northern comes down in the low two thousand land... but, owing to the scarcity, and the, well, coolness, I will most likely buy one no matter what.
And yes, I'll probably sell my Aristo heavyweight fleet now, since there is NO alternative now... I would suspect they will be worth less when the USAT ones get into stock... remember buy low, sell high!
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Having that expectation of a model of this quality (based on the USAT Hudson and Big Boy) is not realistic, so you will never buy a locomotive like this. In fact you won't buy much of anything new, right? No offense, I just don't see why you would even post something like that. Are you mad at the industry?
On the other hand, yes, this is an expensive loco, a plastic one of lesser quality though would still be most likely around $1,400 list, comparing it to Bachmann and the last list price of the last Aristo steamer, the Consolidation.
My guess is that the street price will be lower, but this will never be an inexpensive loco.
Pete: I surely hope that the street price of the Northern comes down in the low two thousand land... but, owing to the scarcity, and the, well, coolness, I will most likely buy one no matter what.
And yes, I'll probably sell my Aristo heavyweight fleet now, since there is NO alternative now... I would suspect they will be worth less when the USAT ones get into stock... remember buy low, sell high!
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Thanks for posting this announcement. I used to get the USA Trains emails. I guess I need to re-subscribe. I'm looking forward to getting a set of the SP Heavyweights in Pullman Green. I've never been disappointed with USA Trains products (I just wish they'd ditch 1:29 for 1:32). I've never been a fan of Aristocraft. The quality of their stuff seemed to range from mediocre to downright poor. No Aristocraft product ever made it into my fleet without some time on the bench first. Even if all the used Aristo heavyweights drop in price, they're not worth my time.
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So you won't be buying my used Aristo HWs?
To be fair, I don't think I have ANYTHING large scale that did not need some tweaking.
Yep, I definitely have more pages on how to correct stuff in Aristo than for USAT.
Greg
To be fair, I don't think I have ANYTHING large scale that did not need some tweaking.
Yep, I definitely have more pages on how to correct stuff in Aristo than for USAT.
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