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 Posted - 05 Jun 2004 : 22:50:31
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MTH is our best chance because of MTH's 1:32 building. Or some other 1:29 manufacturer changing to 1:32 just for the B.B. is the only way one will be built. 1:29 is just two out of scale to make a Big Boy work on 45mm track. It would be approx. 57 inches long, in 1:29.
Will MTH build one? I surely hope so. The drivers are the same as the Challenger as well the Tender. They could use the same electronics and motors.
A new boiler, trucks, and pilot and wella the Big Boy.
Guys who like the Challenger and can run it or would like a great active sill model should buy a first and those who own one should buy a second Challenger.
Good sales is probably the only barrier to the Big Boy.
I all ready planned on two Big Boys minimum, before the Challenger arrived. The Challenger is so well done and with prices at $800. I'm thinking of a second one.
Raymond, enjoy that Challenger, and lets hope MTH will build a BB.
People who don't have one yet , grab that credit card. Even if you own mostly 1:29 a Challenger is too cool to pass up and will negotiate such small radii it's great.
Enjoy RRers,
Allan
PS With loving memory of Ronald Reagan, who made important choices,
many times against the grain and fought the good fight. Who brought our country back to greatness. |
Edited by - on 05 Jun 2004 22:55:22 |
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Posted - 05 Jun 2004 : 23:39:28
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Here are some Big Boy Ogauge MTH photos. This 3 rail version just came out. Originally MTH did an earlier version. This recent one has more details and the PS2 system:
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Engineer
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Posted - 05 Jun 2004 : 23:50:33
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Thanks for the reply and the photos. My word, that Big Boy is just huge! Ohhhh.... for 1/32 scale.....
I agree, if they make a Big Boy, I probably will have to have two myself, you know... for a double-header.. It would seem that wouldn't cost that much more to make one. I sure hope the Challenger sells well.
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Conductor
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Posted - 06 Jun 2004 : 00:29:18
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So Pod,
you're thinking Big Boy? Cool.
Raymond, Double heading Big Boys!!!! A man after my own heart.
Lets hope they build them,
Allan
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Conductor
USA
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Posted - 06 Jun 2004 : 00:30:49
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Pod,
Are those your MTH Big Boys?
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USA
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Posted - 06 Jun 2004 : 06:45:45
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I would like to see MTH produce some smaller motive power for "the rest of us" who may want to model standard gauge railroading in 1:32 scale, but who are left with little to support that interest.
And I would hope that MTH will see fit to put any Union Pacific production in Large Scale on the back burner until the situation with licensing is resolved. The Big Boy is exclusively a UP model, and my own feeling is that such a large investment would not be favorably received at this time--certainly not at the full potential that might be realized if the situation was different.
Bottom line, though: I would really like to see MTH focus on significantly smaller motive power, both steam and diesel, to help expand their market in the formative years of their entry into Large Scale. |
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Posted - 06 Jun 2004 : 07:02:22
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Love my Challenger, but my ultimate goal is a BIG BOY.
I hope MTH makes one before I get to old to enjoy it.
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Posted - 06 Jun 2004 : 08:44:03
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pipelion - The Big Boys Ogauge are not mine. I do have an MTH articulated 2-8-8-2 Railking Ogauge that I dearly love. The tooling on these was developed several years ago. MTH re-released them at a $200.00 lower price point and it has PS2.
Here is the engine it's modeled after - a Denver Rio Grande L-132
Allan - I would prefer a Northern over a Big Boy. It's a popular engine that was on a lot of railroads. Of course, it would have to look something like this....
The above is a "Q" Northern, built by CB&Q, in McCook, NE in the late 1950's.
These weren't small engines but I sure like the looks of them.
That or a 0-6-0 switcher based on a more neutral prototype than USA Trains is offering [plus one a HECK of a lot cheaper].
MTH already made a Railking 0-8-0 switcher. I would rather have one of these over the 0-6-0 in Large Scale.
MTH needs to decide which Steam engine and Diesel is next on the production line.
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Foreman
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Posted - 06 Jun 2004 : 09:09:05
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quote:
Bottom line, though: I would really like to see MTH focus on significantly smaller motive power, both steam and diesel, to help expand their market in the formative years of their entry into Large Scale.
I agree whole heartedly. It would certainly resolve the command and control choice for myself. I have various MTH products along with the PS2 system in 'O'.
I rather enjoy the smaller engines since I am working on a indoor layout. Still trying to decide whether I should go forward on DCC. Small 1/32 engines would fit my bill and I could use my PS2 system which is sitting in a box currently. |
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Engineer
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USA
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Posted - 06 Jun 2004 : 09:19:36
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George - I am waiting to get my free handheld before I can start playing with DCS inside and outside. Of course, my local shop doesn't have any DCS TIU's. Even ebay only has 2 of them for sale.
Sigh...it would be the sh**s to get the handheld, the Challenger and not be able to run the thing on DCS cuz I can't get a TIU [I want to buy it local as the shop owner has been good to me...]. |
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Engineer
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Posted - 06 Jun 2004 : 12:24:50
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its great seeing you guys getting excited about mth hope they come through.
happy rr |
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Foreman
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Posted - 06 Jun 2004 : 18:53:13
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Pod,
I did not realize there was a shortage of TIU's. Perhaps if the local shop can't provide it you could check one of the larger Internet guys?
Hope you find one. If it works anything like the 'O' stuff you won't be disappointed. In my opinion I believe it is a pretty good price and it includes the Command and sound on board. No third party to fool with. |
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Engineer
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Posted - 06 Jun 2004 : 19:10:35
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A MTH Big Boy would be great!
but I think they should make it in 1/29 instead of 1/32!  
(and im pretty much serious!)
in 1/29 the whole engine, tender and all, (133feet prototype)
would be 4' 7"! 55 inches 
but in 1/32 its still 4" 2" - 50 inches!
only 5" shorter in 1/32..and either way its over 4 feet long!
Thats really not any serious difference as far as model curves is concerned..
either way, the physics of building the model would be the same..
the "1/32 vs. 1/29" arguement is basically irrelevant with an engine of this size..either way its HUGE!!
so why not go all-out and do 1/29?
it would probably sell better that way..
personally im not at all interested in 1/32 anymore because everything else is 1/29..
1/32 doesent match anything I own..its too small..
(yes, I have firmly switched over into the 1/29 camp..I long ago ceased to care about the "incorrectness" of 1/29.)
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Posted - 06 Jun 2004 : 19:32:01
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My vote is for a smaller loco in 1:32.
Something like an accurate USRA 2-8-0.
Rather than a Pacific with different running gear. |
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Engineer
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Posted - 06 Jun 2004 : 19:48:30
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Scotty - MTH already has the engineering designs/plans for the loco so it's already ahead of the game. They just have to convert it to 1:32. Then again, Aristocraft has their 8 wheeled truck on the Mallet that could work...
But, Aristocraft has their engines announced for the next 3 plus years.
USA Trains will make 1:29 steam that costs close to $2000.00.
If anyone makes a Big Boy - I would put my money on MTH but then again, the MTH/Lionel Lawsuit just ended. I think I will wait till the outcome of that trial before I further any predictions.
Tony - I would love to see a mainline 2-8-0 that is older than 1930 and is a standard gauge model. Aristocraft announced one. And Aristocraft announced a Northern also... |
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