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10/07/2008 6:26 AM  
I have all BB in my Aristo Heavy Wights ans sure made a difference.  Can pull all Six with my LS and up 1% grade.  Later RJD


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10/11/2008 2:18 AM  
Any one got Part Numbers?    Is sunval still selling on the net?   Anyone got a link?

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10/11/2008 4:53 AM  
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10/11/2008 8:11 AM  
JJ....  I've used Aristo-Craft, San Val and LGB ballbearing wheelsets and have found that the Aristo Craft sets are by far the best for wear and longevity.  They will handle the weight of a 10 pound battery car for long periods of time with little on no wear. 
 
 


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10/11/2008 9:53 AM  
I have the Aristo and the LGB Stan, and to me, the bearings roll much smoother on the LGB. Did you have some problem with the LGB? I've heard of rusting problems.

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10/11/2008 9:55 PM  
Posted By Greg Elmassian on 10/11/2008 9:53 AM
I have the Aristo and the LGB Stan, and to me, the bearings roll much smoother on the LGB. Did you have some problem with the LGB? I've heard of rusting problems.

Thanks, Greg

 
I left a car outdoors with LGB ball bearing wheels, a few years ago, and the bearings did partially sieze. However with alittle help from my thumb, they became unsiezed in short order. They do roll far superior to the Sanval wheels. Although Sanval's are not supposed to rust. I'm not sure what type of steel LGB uses, or used, but if they are plain steel and Sanvals are possibly stainless, it could be the reason for the rust/no rust theory. When razor blades used to be plain carbon steel, the edge that was on them when they were new, was sharper than the edge on a new stainless steel blade. Don't you see the correlation here?


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10/11/2008 10:05 PM  
Posted By Greg Elmassian on 10/11/2008 9:53 AM
I have the Aristo and the LGB Stan, and to me, the bearings roll much smoother on the LGB. Did you have some problem with the LGB? I've heard of rusting problems.

Thanks, Greg

The LGB wheelsets worked well but I have much better performance with the Aristo's.  I've had both "sieze" slightly after some heavy rain but a shot of WD-40 fixed the problem.


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10/11/2008 11:52 PM  
Not to belabor the point (which is pretty much moot since you can't get the LGB stuff) but electrical performance, or rolling resistance (or both) is better?

Really curious about your experience... I have had good luck with the Aristo's but they seem to have a bit more roughness in the rolling, and I have had a very few with some wobble.

I've heard the LGB rust problem from a number of people.

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10/14/2008 11:53 AM  
Found this place on line
http://www.vxb.com/ballbearings.html?OVRAW=roller%20bearings%20robots&OVKEY=roller%20bearing&OVMTC=advanced&OVADID=743090512&OVKWID=4574897512
it it's any help to anyone.

Can anyone tell me the diameter of the Bachmann and Aristo axles?

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10/14/2008 8:53 PM  
John:  The Aristo number is ART 29123B

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10/15/2008 6:06 AM  
Posted By Treeman on 10/14/2008 8:53 PM
John:  The Aristo number is ART 29123B


 
 
 
Thanks  Mike.

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10/15/2008 8:03 AM  
Rick...  Bachmann axles are 1/8 inch...  With a caliper they measure out to .118  I expcect that Aristo's will measure the same.


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10/15/2008 11:24 AM  
One caveat: I purchased some BB wheel sets (no power pick-up) off of ebay. These are the ones that are stainless steel and have been advertised as being able to color with a permanent marker in minutes. They are marketed under the title Roll-EZ and they will not fit as a replacement in the AMS 1:20.3 J&S Coaches!!  When I tried to replace the wheel sets that came with the cars with the Roll-EZ BB ones I found out they are too wide! They work fine with plastic trucks but won't work with the brass trucks of the AMS models.

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10/16/2008 4:58 AM  
I had only found Jay-bee FRR LGB compatible sleeve bearing wheel sets and I was able to place these on my toytrain tenders and a passenger car.

These work great for me and allow additional power pickups for my 2 axle engines.

I hope this vendor is doing well, I may want some more.
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10/16/2008 7:12 AM  
even though they are not ball bearing I like jay-bee independent wheels ........
 
and insome whays I like the larger contact area on his then the pinpoint contact of a ball bearing when running more then just miliamps thru them .........
 
I am always afraid I am going to fry one of those little tiny balls or weld it to the cage ....
 
but I will also let you know he is getting older and it takes us months to get and order from him for the store ..... once was close to a year ...
 
so I would plain ahead ....

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Posted By ohioriverrailway on 10/14/2008 11:53 AM
Found this place on line
http://www.vxb.com/ballbearings.html?OVRAW=roller%20bearings%20robots&OVKEY=roller%20bearing&OVMTC=advanced&OVADID=743090512&OVKWID=4574897512
it it's any help to anyone.

Can anyone tell me the diameter of the Bachmann and Aristo axle
 
 
 
I wonder Rick if we are not thinking the same thing. 
 
I was thinking of  finding a roller bearing of some sort to match the diamater of  the axel and drilling out the wheel  to fit the bearing.  It is was  cheap enough I could then  convert everything to  roller bearings.    Then ond could take avantage of  all the wheel sales and convert them
 
That is a interesting Website.  Thanks for the link. 

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Posted By Steve Stockham on 10/15/2008 11:24 AM
One caveat: I purchased some BB wheel sets (no power pick-up) off of ebay. These are the ones that are stainless steel and have been advertised as being able to color with a permanent marker in minutes. They are marketed under the title Roll-EZ and they will not fit as a replacement in the AMS 1:20.3 J&S Coaches!!  When I tried to replace the wheel sets that came with the cars with the Roll-EZ BB ones I found out they are too wide! They work fine with plastic trucks but won't work with the brass trucks of the AMS models.
 
 Too wide?   By how much?   Could you trim a little off each end and touch up the shafts with a grinder?   



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10/21/2008 12:29 PM  
John,
That was one thought, although I'm leaning to just putting axle bearings into the sideframes and letting it go at that. But maybe some experimenting is in order, since a 10-pack can be fairly inexpensive. I'm only planning on doing the battery car and the snow sweeper at this point in time.

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10/21/2008 5:29 PM  
I use San-Val metal wheels on all my cars. I got some of his ball bearing wheelsets a couple of years ago, and began converting my J&S Bachmann cars over to them. The reason was that as my passenger train got longer, it also got harder and harder for my locos to pull them. I also found that the Bachmann trucks have the correct holders for LGB power pickups to light the trains without all those metal pieces. Runs very nice now.

I did notice that the ball bearing sets seemed to have some slop in them. You can feel it when you spin the wheels, but I don't think it makes much difference when running them on trains.

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