Ray Dunakin
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 | | 11/14/2008 2:41 PM |
| Terry, couldn't you order the wood you need from a supplier here and have it mailed to you? Even with the shipping costs I bet it would be a heck of a lot cheaper. I can recommend a guy who cuts western red cedar to spec for large scale users. I get all mine from him and his prices are very reasonable.
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tacfoley 1st Class Member
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 | | 11/14/2008 3:50 PM |
| Posted By Ray Dunakin on 11/14/2008 2:41 PM
Terry, couldn't you order the wood you need from a supplier here and have it mailed to you? Even with the shipping costs I bet it would be a heck of a lot cheaper. I can recommend a guy who cuts western red cedar to spec for large scale users. I get all mine from him and his prices are very reasonable.
Ray, a kind gentleman from this forum [via a pm] has already put me in contact with a supplier on your side of the Great Water. Sadly the shipping would wipe away any saving.
Thanks for the thought, anyhow. Best tac | | | |
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John J Moderator
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| | I find it amazing when your Dreams are shattered how many people here will help you piece them back together. | |
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Ray Dunakin
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 | | 11/14/2008 8:13 PM |
| | Bummer. Hmm, there must be some solution... if you can't get cedar or redwood there, perhaps there is some other material that could be obtained locally and pressed into use. Perhaps a local wood, treated with preservatives... or square plastic rods painted to look like wood... | |
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JEFF RUNGE
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 | | 11/15/2008 8:31 AM |
| | Tac, Have no fear after a few years of Lord Obama in charge we will be enjoying our own VAT and pricing to match that on your side of the pond. I'm stocking up on supplies to MAINTAIN my RR, rolling stock and motive power... I would still like to put another engine or two in the shed over the next few years.. | | | |
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tacfoley 1st Class Member
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 | | 11/15/2008 11:32 AM |
| Posted By John J on 11/14/2008 4:39 PM
I find it amazing when your Dreams are shattered how many people here will help you piece them back together.
John, truer words have hardly ever been spoken.
Thanks, all you guys. tac www.ovgrs.org
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MasonsDad 1st Class Member Beautiful San Antonio Texas
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 | | 11/16/2008 4:57 PM |
| Posted By tacfoley on 11/15/2008 11:32 AM Posted By John J on 11/14/2008 4:39 PM
I find it amazing when your Dreams are shattered how many people here will help you piece them back together.
John, truer words have hardly ever been spoken.
Thanks, all you guys. tac www.ovgrs.org
Tac
That is why I love this site these guys are great , I had the honor and priviledge to meet alot of them this last June in CA and talk about some nice folks !!! heck if we lived closer I would say come on over and use my equipment and make the boards yourself. Good luck and take care
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Torby 1st Class Member North Chicago 'burbs.
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 | | 11/17/2008 6:48 AM |
| Tac,  When a modeler finds something he wants to do is impractical, he figures out another way to do it.  You'll build your trestle! | |
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Rod Fearnley 1st Class Member Mid Norfolk. England
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 | | 11/17/2008 7:15 AM |
| Terry as MasonsDad said," heck if we lived closer I would say come on over and use my equipment and make the boards yourself." I do live closer,and, I have a large table saw you are welcome to come over and cut your wood here anytime. Might even make you a cup of tea Rod (Swanton Morley, Norfolk)
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davidarf
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 | | 11/20/2008 2:09 AM |
| Terry, sorry to hear that your bridge project is giving you such grief. As an out of control bridge building addict, I sympathise. Finding materials and other solutions that are structurally and financially practical can be a challenge. For my timber structures, I use teak because it is very durable outdoors and, more importantly, because I have a supply that I salvaged from some dismantled teak furniture (http://www.sdfr.info/images/August2006/P1000774.JPG). Similarly, Rod has recently completed a small timber bridge using mahogany from a salvaged staircase handrail ( http://picasaweb.google.com/wpandyr/QueenTruss#). Are there any opportunities in your part of the country for aquiring second hand timber? This can sometimes be found at no cost - or minimal cost, but does obviously invole the chore of cutting it down to the required sizes. Best of luck with your project.
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tacfoley 1st Class Member
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 | | 11/20/2008 6:26 AM |
| David - as ever, good advice from you - thanks. and thanks to Rod as well, please PM me so we can sort something out. And thanks to you all, in particular, Jim over in Bellingham WA, proprietor of NorthWest Precision Lumber, who took the trouble to e-mail me with a possible solution. I was unable to take him up on it because of the cost of freighting a 28 pound bundle of wood to UK, but his heart is in the right place and I recommend his products and services to any and all of you, particulalry those in the NWP zone. I'll think of something, and if I find a few pieces of siuitable woddy stuff, I'll prolly be over at Rod's ripping it up on his sawbench.... Anyhow, I'm running my K-27 plus three cars and my Sheridan van on the new layout now - as we write this note, in fact. Where the trestle WILL be is a contraption made of Dexion and slats...looks quite good if you squint a lot... Best wishes to all, here and there tac | | | |
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Dennis Paulson 1st Class Member Chandler In
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| | tac this always works for me ............................................take off my glasses and squint a lot ! | |
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John J Moderator
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| Posted By Dennis Paulson on 11/20/2008 6:31 AM
tac this always works for me ............................................take off my glasses and squint a lot ! Does the 10 FT squint rule supersede the regular 10 ft rule?
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markoles 1st Class Member Lancaster, PA
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 | | 11/21/2008 9:12 AM |
| Terry,
I saw the picture of your railroad on the OVGRS site. That will make an impressive trestle when done.
Here's another idea: We use a lot of wood for packaging. Are there any factories nearby that get shipments in wooden crates? Often, the crates are broken down and discarded. While usually a low grade of lumber, it is a cheap alternative. And if it is international shipping, the wood all has to be kiln dried these days. The other thing to consider might be wooden pallets. There was a guy on here not too long ago that built his indoor layout using wooden pallets. Mark | |
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Mark L Horstead 1st Class Member
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 | | 12/09/2008 3:22 PM |
| | We could all take up a "collection" and each send you a stick. | | | |
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John J Moderator
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| How much would it cost to send a 28 LB clump of wood to England? I was just wondering. | |
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Allegheny
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 | | 12/11/2008 5:56 AM |
| John, I just went to the UPS website - 30# to 10 Downing St in London would cost anywhere from $270-380! And that was at the minimum declared value of $100. OUCH.
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Dan Pierce 1st Class Member South Eastern MA, USA
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 | | 12/12/2008 5:17 AM |
| I have been told that you can not just ship wood internationally. There must be an inspection and stamp for bug free wood or it could be tied up for months by an avid inspector. | | | |
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Great Western
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 | | 12/12/2008 6:00 AM |
| On the straight sections of my RR I have used pieces of timber approx. 3ft.in length x 6 ins. width and 3 ins. depth as the base on which my track and ballast is laid. These timbers are set into the dirt, resting on 8" x 3"x 3" pieces of fence post. The fence post pieces are treated and the pine lengths also have been soaked in a suitable waterproofing and bug deterrent. The corner parts of my RR have building blocks as a foundation. None of this construction has moved, in any direction, since laid two and a half years ago. I am not too concerned about the longevity of all this as I am sure it will see me out!  None of this timber, or any in fact used on parts of my RR, have I needed to buy. Folks around here know I burn wood on my fires and I get lots of logs, tree boughs and scrap lumber given to me. Dumpsters are a good source of lumber - usually FOC if you ask the right person and in the correct manner. Often builders and other tradesmen will deliver to you, again FOC, to get rid of things especially as it saves them time and a journey to the nearest garbage dump/reclamation center.
For TAC's info (he will know what I mean) we learned the a lot of tricks from the Steptoes.  | | regards, Alan Lott (G1AEU) http://picasaweb.google.com/FSigs52 http://www.paignton-steamrailway.co.uk ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642)
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NavyTech 1st Class Member Sackville NS Canada
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 | | 12/12/2008 11:35 AM |
| I too am in the process of building a truss system and was going to go with cedar. Here in Eastern Canada I figured it would be easy to get and not to expensive. I was wrong as well. I experimented with PVC ripped and glued and painted. It turned out OK but the glued joints were not the strongest. My big Question is if I use Pine and soak in Thompson Water stain would I get 10 years out of it? I thought of soaking in motor oil but It would be messy to work with and Not sure if glue would work well. I made a bridge out of Oak and treated it with Thompson water seal and it looks great but It has not been outside yet.
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