james brodie
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 | | 09/13/2008 4:24 PM |
| been away so my pennethworth may be a bit out of sinc,it wouldn't be very wise to wee from the cab side on lines with outside third electric rails
as to the bottom of the bucket fitted in a ring to possibly stop water spillimg-if filled with water which I doubt spillage would still take place. Our remedy for stopping water in the bucket spilling was to leave the hand brush in the water. two fold stopped spillage and when you swept up after firing the brush was already damped down (wet) Re lineside fires you just put the injector on and used the slacker pipe as a hose pipe to put the fire out. I've done it some fifty plus years back when I was a coolie/stoker/fireman in the days when summers were hotter and winters winteryer.
I still think the buckets were for sand Jim Brodie. | | | |
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Greg Stevens
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| | 09/17/2008 12:27 AM |
| DK,
If you will send me your e-mail address, I will send you a photo of the hooks with Cable attached. Asko123@aol.com | |
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james brodie
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| | 09/17/2008 11:07 AM |
| DearGregg,are the cables you mention to DK hanging from the hooks that the sand buckets used to hang from?
We used to have wagons with hooks on the solebar for tying the cord from wagon sheets onto and some of the continental wagons had cast hooks on them for tying ropes to them or chains with turnbuckles to anchor them down when going across the channel on the ferry boats. I don't think the hooks on the bunker ends would be strong enough to pull wagons along but the victorian engineers made some good quality fittings.JB | | | |
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Greg Stevens
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| | 09/17/2008 5:26 PM |
| | Yes James, the hooks were for holding cable or really large diameter rope. The photo I am talking about has at least one link spliced into it. The hooks are NOT used to pull with, they are mearly for storage. The cable/rope was hooked into the link pocket on the rear of the tender and then hooked onto the other piece of rolling stock for movement. I don't know how to link photos to this message or I would do it. | |
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james brodie
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| | 09/18/2008 12:35 AM |
| | Dear Greg sorry I mispelled your Christian name,if it's possible for you to sned a photo via e mail mine is jamesbrodie193@btinternet.com (even send!) it is 0733 hours!! Incidentley that used to be my cheque number when I was a fireman.Jim. | | | |
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DKRickman
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| | 09/18/2008 9:46 AM |
| Greg,
If you'll send me the photo, I'll put it on my web space and post it here (provided I have your permission, of course). | |
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DKRickman
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| | 09/18/2008 1:56 PM |
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Interestingly, this also shows 4 hooks, which I had not previously seen.
It also gives me another idea about what the hooks would have been used for. There appears to be at least one coupling link haning by itself on one of the hooks. In the days of link and pin couplers, both links and pins would have had a habit of walking off. Pins could be chained to their respective cars, but the links had to be loose. I can see it being quite possible that a brakeman would need a ready supply of spare links.
Might be practical on a model, too. Carry spare links on the tender, if you're operating with link & pins. | |
Kenneth Rickman - krickman1@carolina.rr.com
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james brodie
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| | 09/18/2008 3:23 PM |
| | In the fifties part of a brake vans equipment(caboose)used to be a tow rope. If you were having a ride home in a van and there was a tow rope coiled round and round on the floor you looked for another train to ride on as that coiled rope meant that van was a bad rider and that's where the guard would be sitting when his train set off.No wonder you called your four wheeled cabooses bobbers.J. | | | |
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Greg Stevens
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| | 09/18/2008 11:03 PM |
| | Man that was fast Ken. I just sent you that shot a little earlier today. One of these days, I'll relearn how to post photos again. James, I hope this answered your question about what the hooks are/were for on the rear of tenders. | |
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james brodie
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| | 09/19/2008 11:55 AM |
| I think the hooks are just carrying hooks as they wouldn't be strong enough to take the weight of anywot! or am I stating the obvious?
but thanks for the info and photos. No matter how long you have been on the railway there is always something new to learn or is it I am a slow learner Jim. | | | |
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