nick s.
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Upstate NY
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 | | 05/07/2008 3:12 PM |
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That thing is haulin a-s, it always amazes me to see something that big move that quick
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| | 05/07/2008 4:15 PM |
| Nick,
Great video, thanks for sharing. | |
I'm in a hurry to get things done
Oh I rush and rush until life's no fun
All I really gotta do is live and die.
I'm in a hurry and don't know why! | |
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gary Armitstead
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| | 05/07/2008 4:26 PM |
| Nick,
Great video and U.P. always does it with CLASS! Brute power. Not a dis-easal in sight! I wish Southern Pacific would have let 3751 run last weekend without diesel help. | |
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Road Foreman
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Ashland, Kansas
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| | 05/07/2008 6:18 PM |
| Nick,
With 80 inch drivers she was built to go fast, could cruise @ 100 MPH all day.. Wonderful engine & needs no helpers!! Got to see her in Topeka, Ks..
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Madman
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Pennsylvania
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| | 05/07/2008 7:29 PM |
| | Not only does it amaze me that the big thing moves like hell, but the fact that you have a steam boiler with all of it's various controls and monstrous moving parts, move thousands of tons, controlled by two people, and they live to tell about it! | |
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up9018
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| | 05/07/2008 8:08 PM |
| I LOVE that locomotive, I've been all over it, in the cab, and seen it run several times. I wish they would repaint it back to the two tone gray scheme, but it was too expensive and difficult to maintain. Did you know that UP 844 (or 8444) was never retired from the active roster list? And that makes the Union Pacific the only Class 1 railroad to never completely dieselize.
Most of the time when diesels are used in conjuction with steam engines it is for braking requirements only, as mandated by the railroad it's running on. Steam engines don't have dynamic brakes. | | | |
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Semper Vaporo
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Cedar Rapids, Iowa
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| | 05/07/2008 8:28 PM |
| | A testimony as to why many of us are Live Steamers!!!! | |
 C. T. McCullough
Cedar Rapids, Iowa
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Greg Stevens
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Glendora, CA
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| | 05/07/2008 9:38 PM |
| Gary,
I think you meant BNSF not Southern Pacific. There is no SP anymore thanks to the Union Pacific. AND, BNSF doesn't have a steam program as yet, so for insurance reasons, the diesel was added as a pilot engine. No one is qualified on the BNSF to run a steamer and no one on the SBRHS is qualified to run on the RR. | |
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gary Armitstead
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Burbank, CA
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| | 05/07/2008 9:52 PM |
| Thanks Greg,
I should've known better about the SP. The last time I saw 4449 come through Tehachapi and then Burbank was over 25 years ago and it was SP then. I have trouble keeping up with these damn mergers. I just naturally think of everything in this area as SP. Still in my childhood memories." | |
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Mike Reilley
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Escondido, Ca
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| | 05/07/2008 11:04 PM |
| Posted By Greg Stevens on 05/07/2008 9:38 PM
Gary,
I think you meant BNSF not Southern Pacific. There is no SP anymore thanks to the Union Pacific. AND, BNSF doesn't have a steam program as yet, so for insurance reasons, the diesel was added as a pilot engine. No one is qualified on the BNSF to run a steamer and no one on the SBRHS is qualified to run on the RR.
So....are you saying that when 3751 comes to San Diego next month...it will be in tow???? Or in tow only to where the North County Transit District owns the track starting in Oceanside? I was thinking of go seeing it under steam....hmmmm | |
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nick s.
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Upstate NY
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| | 05/07/2008 11:31 PM |
| ooops found another one for you guys
what would happen if a rod fell off at this speed? has it ever happend before and what was the results...
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Mike Reilley
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Escondido, Ca
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| | 05/07/2008 11:48 PM |
| Posted By Mike Reilley on 05/07/2008 11:04 PM Posted By Greg Stevens on 05/07/2008 9:38 PM
Gary,
I think you meant BNSF not Southern Pacific. There is no SP anymore thanks to the Union Pacific. AND, BNSF doesn't have a steam program as yet, so for insurance reasons, the diesel was added as a pilot engine. No one is qualified on the BNSF to run a steamer and no one on the SBRHS is qualified to run on the RR. So....are you saying that when 3751 comes to San Diego next month...it will be in tow???? Or in tow only to where the North County Transit District owns the track starting in Oceanside? I was thinking of go seeing it under steam....hmmmm
Forget all that....it's PULLING as steam excursion...so it will be under power. | |
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nick s.
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Nick Jr
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| | 05/08/2008 4:15 AM |
| | Nick, thank you for sharing. I am always amazed at the power of those beautiful beasts. Nick Jr | | | |
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up9018
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| | 05/08/2008 5:19 AM |
| | Rods generally don't fall off, they just break from fatigue, and most of the time it's the main rod (the one from the piston to the drivers). Alot of times they just tear alot of stuff up, but sometimes on locomotives with longer main rods (like 844) they have been known to come up and punch a hole in the boiler, THAT'S BAD. This rarely happened though because of the weight of the rod. | | | |
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jnic
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Pennsylvania
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| | 05/08/2008 7:09 AM |
| | Tell me you weren't driving the car ... | | | |
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Madman
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Pennsylvania
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| | 05/08/2008 7:57 AM |
| Posted By nick s. on 05/07/2008 3:12 PM That thing is haulin a-s, it always amazes me to see something that big move that quick " border=0> Nick...
I didn't watch this clip the first time I replyed to your thread.
Simply amzing! It doesn't even look like it broke a sweat. What was your speed as you were pacing it?
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multiplealarm
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Alexander City Alabama
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| | 05/08/2008 8:20 AM |
| WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
0 to FLYING in 2 1/2 minutes. Love these videos. " border=0>" border=0>" border=0>" border=0>" border=0>" border=0>" border=0>
You know with the pending price of fuel, we should just park the Dash 9's and SD 70's and put these beauties back to work.
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Semper Vaporo
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Cedar Rapids, Iowa
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| | 05/08/2008 11:18 AM |
| | Yes, side and main rods did break and/or come off. Not often, but often enough to be of concern and often enough that the old "Camel Back" or "Mother Hubbard" type locos were outlawed. When rods came off those engines, the side of the cab was wiped from the side of the boiler along with the person in the cab... body parts were hard to identify afterwards. | |
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Cedar Rapids, Iowa
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axdop
Baltimore, MD
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| | 05/08/2008 11:28 AM |
| Thanks for sharing that, Nick. It's the coolest thing I've seen today!
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