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vsmith
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 | | 08/30/2008 4:42 PM |
| | I still find it a decent mix, agreed theres some bad articles form time to time or some layout I may personally not care for, but for each of those theres some great articles, like Bruce's "Glad Hands" or Marty's "Table Creek" discussion, and for each disappointing layout, there are layouts that just make my eyes pop open and I say "wow", so its still doing something right, most of the time. | |
 Kitbashing, welcome to the Dark Side | |
| chuckger
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| | 08/31/2008 1:17 PM |
| Looking through thr latest issue of GR on page 7 the bottom third of Ridge Road Station's add it says C-16 Wood or Coal Engine Features: Suitable for 1:24th or 1:29th scale.
So this engine would work with 1:29 rolling stock?? Can't picture a C16 engine with Aristo 1:29 heavyweight passinger cars.
Steve, you forgot all the "discussion" about LGB going under, and about the super socket, the K27 has been out 8 months now and I have yet to see a post anywhere about anyone having a problem with it, [the socket].
As for GR Ive been a subscriber for 8 yr's. I like the how to articles, and general info. I think the mag has improved in the last 3 to 4 years. I know I'd miss it if it where to suddenly go away.
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| Steve Stockham
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| | 08/31/2008 4:36 PM |
| | Nah, I didn't forget about LGB but the "discussion" on that subject was more over on LSC than here! (In fact, it's still going on!) The "supersocket" may not be over! Strange things are going on over at Bachmann and they still aren't giving Tony Walsham an answer to a simple question even though they intimated they would. We will just have to wait and see what's inside the new Biles-Coleman Mallet when it shows up! | |
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| Bill4373
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| | 08/31/2008 4:50 PM |
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If you don't like the engine, DON'T BUY IT!!!
If you don't like Garden Railways magazine, DON'T BUY IT!!! | |
Gather, friends, while we enquire, into trains propelled by fire.... | |
| TonyWalsham
Melbourne Vic Australia
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| | 08/31/2008 5:38 PM |
| Steve,
Actually I have finally got an answer to my question.
It just wasn't in public.YET.
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| Steve Stockham
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| | 08/31/2008 9:41 PM |
| It took 'em long enough. Bill, to what engine are you referring? The new Aristocraft C-16 is a good engine! They took a design that Delton first did and finally got it right! Delton's units were underpowered and unreliable but were gems to look at (even if they were in 1:24!) When Aristo was able to acquire the moulds, they put in a more robust drivetrain but they lost some of the accuracy by having the whole boiler and cab sit 1/2" too high and by having some less than accurate paint schemes. Now, they have gone further and come up with a pretty slick belt drive utilizing metal valve gear and which lowers the boiler/cab profile back to what it should be. They even are re-doing their paint schemes to be more accurate. It's not 1:20.3 so it's not accurately gauged but for what it is: a redesign of a venerable model nearing 20 years of age, it is worth of note.
If you are referring to the K-27 with the "supersocket," I have one and have had it re-done over by TOC and it is a superb model but it illustrates the point that reviews need to be more than regurgitated ads from the various manufacturer's marketing departments. That part belongs in the New Products section. Product Reviews should be where "our" trusted and objective experts check out everything about this new offering and give us an unbiassed review so we can make the best informed purchase possible. The "gist" of the problem seems to be that many if not all of Kalmbach's RR periodicals have adopted a much more "corporate chearleader" style of articles. Be that as it may, I'm still subscribing. | |
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| Pete Chimney
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| | 09/01/2008 8:18 AM |
| I guess this discussion about GR and whether it is in decline (or not) boils down to this (a paraphrase from Abe Lincoln).
"You can please some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can never please all of the people all of the time". | |
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| East Broad Top
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| | markoles
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| | 09/02/2008 8:36 AM |
| Chuckgr,
I'd say the C-16 would look weird with a heavyweight, but it might not look so bad with early 1900s late 1890s standard gauge equipment. The Aristo Sierra cars come to mind. Here's the thread where I have pictures posted of both a 1:20.3 loco and the Aristo 1:24 C-16 hauling 1:29 cars.
http://www.mylargescale.com/Community/Forums/tabid/56/forumid/14/postid/46808/view/topic/Default.aspx
You have to use your imagination and pretend to make it really work scale wise, but I rationalize it by saying it is simply a standard gauge loco with small drivers. Here's a picture of the 1856 Wm Mason under steam at the B&O museum last year (run by MLSer Chris France). If this had a 100-ton hopper behind it, I don't think it would look much different than the C-16 with a 100 ton hopper. If you want to model the late 1890s early 1900s, but you want to model standard gauge, then you could theoretically choose this engine to meet your desires.
For fun, I dug through the UConn library images of New Haven steam (what else?). The New Haven, being run by bankers, had old power that was too small until well after WW1.
Doesn't this consol look like it could have C-16 wheels and cylinders with a Big Hauler boiler?
http://images.lib.uconn.edu/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/photographs&CISOPTR=487&CISOBOX=1&REC=9
Point is, with the right perception and enough research, most of the model trains availble ready to run could be adapted to our choice scale.
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