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 | | 07/22/2008 12:45 PM |
| Posted By DKRickman on 07/22/2008 11:48 AM Posted By vsmith on 07/22/2008 8:44 AM Well, thats 2, I predicted 3 so who else to make the trio.  " border=0>" border=0> I will, I will! I've always loved these little engines. The question is, what scale/gauge should it be? To me correct, shouldn't we work in 7/8n2 on 45 mm track, or maybe an O gauge mechanism and keep the scale 1:20.3? Or do we cheat, and turn it into a 3' gauge engine? Somehow, I don't think stretching the gauge by 50% will look right.
If I build one, its got to work with my other stuff on my layout, so it would for me need to be gummied to 3' at 1:20 or 1:22 scale, this is why I havent tried it yet and the main reason I didnt really see it working as a Masterclass project unless a common scale was agreed on, there are far too few people doing 7/8" to justify working in that scale for a group project and if we all try building one in different scales any detail material list will go right the window as each project would in essence become a custom scratchbuild...hence the problem of what to choose. There are all these considerations to account for. I just see alot of contention and aurgument over correct scale and gauge issues with a Darj class B.
Thats why I thought the Bear Harbor #1 might be a better candidate, its already 3' gauge and could be built in 1/20 scale without any compromises. | |
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| | 07/22/2008 12:47 PM |
| | BTW The Roundhouse live steam version is 1/22.5 scale running on 45mm track I beleive | |
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| | 07/22/2008 5:06 PM |
| Posted By DougArcher on 07/22/2008 12:55 AM Posted By astrayelmgod on 07/21/2008 5:32 PM
Somebody posted a link to a tiny narrow gauge 2-4-4-2 that ran in New Zealand for awhile. Whoa, Where? Id like to see any small articulated, or possibly a non modeled garatt
Doug --
There is a picture of it here:
http://narrowmind.railfan.net/2442_NZ_logger.JPG
If you Google "Taupo Totara", you'll find photos of the preserved engine,and a side elevation. | | | |
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| | 07/23/2008 1:29 AM |
| Thanks, astraylmgod.
it reminds me of Bob Baxter's Pee-Wee.
This Site: http://www.steaminthewoods.com, has some neat loco's as well
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| 07/23/2008 6:22 AM |
| Posted By DKRickman on 07/22/2008 12:06 PM
A comment about the masterclasses in general might be in order here...
I first found MLS because of the mogul masterclass, and I still refer people to it and the others whenever the subjects of kitbashing, scratchbuilding, or the toylike appearance of some large scale models are brought up. To me, the value of a masterclass is not in being part of a group of people building a given model, or of being able to purchase various parts as a bundle or at a discount. The greatest value is the fact that the information is there indefinitely so that, 5 years from now, when you're ready to start work, there it is, ready to go. The skills taught, the information given, the methods of work, all are valuable, even if you have no need for a Mason bogie, or a Mogul, or anything else that may be built.
I am currently working on a scratchbuilding project of my own, with techniques learned in reading and re-reading every old masterclass article I can find.
So no matter what the next subject may be, or how many people join in, there will be people like me who appreciate the work for years to come.
To expound on these comments....the research and expertise and details put into these classes and other shared projects is one of the huge sellign factors of this site! The fact that so many folks freely share so much info so willingly! That and the fact that this site continues to share that same info even thru some adversity of a new format and server issues. I'm looking forward to building some of these in the future!
Thanks folks! It truly is appreciated!
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| | 10/16/2008 7:08 PM |
| "How about a MasterClass on how to do your own creation?" Great idea, I'd follow along that one!  | | | |
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| | 10/16/2008 7:40 PM |
| What about something with a little international appeal? I really like the lines of this loco, and I think it could be built using a 45-tonner (nice and cheap!) instead of a Connie. Or perhaps something small and practical, with a little of that old-time flair? This ought to be useful for lots of folks, from 1:32 all the way to 1:20.3, with the apropriate modifications, and should work on all those tight radii. And now for something completely different - a Baldwin flexibile beam engine. I think it's a safe bet that no manufacturer will be making this one any time soon, but I think they're neat, and they were relatively common in the mid 19th entury.
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| | 10/20/2008 6:23 PM |
| Id love to see a new masterclass but for now I have a Mason that is 75% done, but since I moved from my parents house I lost the shed for a workshop. Work on that stopped until I get a house. Currently in a townhouse and with this horrible market I dont think it will be soon. I also have 2 Bronson-Tate cars the combine is completed and the coach is in the box still. I also started 2 Porters in live steam using the Ruby running gear and wheels and 1/2" cylinders on a totally new frame. Work on that has been slow but I have a running chassis and am working on the boiler and boiler extension then a wrapper to cover it all.
I have to build some orignal D&RG coaches too to go with my Ruby/Montezuma conversion I did about 2 years ago. | |
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| | 10/20/2008 6:55 PM |
| Posted By vsmith on 07/22/2008 8:44 AM Well, thats 2, I predicted 3 so who else to make the trio.  " align="absmiddle" border="0" /> I guess I'd be #4, but could prob save the $$$ and buy live steam before I could afford the time right now... cale
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| | 10/20/2008 8:24 PM |
| | #3 is Justin who also had set the project aside for paying work. He has a frame and a tender just started. | |
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| | 10/20/2008 9:18 PM |
| | I just realized that the picture of the Darjeeling that vsmith posted came directly off the Roundhouse web site, and it is in stock in various places. So, acquiring one is mostly a question of desire, and making one phone call. Now, see, that's exactly what I would not be interested in building. Yes, it's ~$3k, but with my limited time, there isn't any way I can justify building one. | | | |
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| | 10/21/2008 1:11 PM |
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...or buy the old Bachmann LYN version and repower it with a Stainz driveblock  | |
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| | 10/22/2008 2:38 PM |
| or buy the old Bachmann LYN version and repower it with a Stainz driveblock
Now why in the world should someone want to repower a Bachmann Lyn with a Stainz driveblock?
The Bachmann drive in it runs perfectly. Simply install some batteries and maybe RC.
If you want to run it with trackpower, turn down the very rough wheels, have them chrome plated and off you go.
Meter gauge ist not really prototypically for this machine. It ran on 2 Feet track.
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| | 10/22/2008 7:12 PM |
| And, they're 3'6" gauge, perfect for 1:24!
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| | 10/22/2008 8:57 PM |
| | Dwight Im with your option but it has to be in live steam!!! How good are you with the CNC now?? Hahah | |
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| | 10/23/2008 7:53 AM |
| Jason - that photo is a Backwoods Miniatures On3/On30 kit. Two Ruby chassis may work for this little logging articulated though the wheelbase would probably have to be shortened. That may be a little involved - new siderods, new frames, and new eccentrics. Still, it should be doable (especially with CNC).  I just don't have the ambition at the moment. | |
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| | 10/23/2008 7:46 PM |
| Posted By Dwight Ennis on 10/23/2008 7:53 AM
Jason - that photo is a Backwoods Miniatures On3/On30 kit. Two Ruby chassis may work for this little logging articulated though the wheelbase would probably have to be shortened. That may be a little involved - new siderods, new frames, and new eccentrics. Still, it should be doable (especially with CNC). I just don't have the ambition at the moment.
You mean involved like this???
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