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 | | 10/12/2008 8:26 PM |
| >>>Perhaps you can explain to me how a thread about PIKO's new starter sets has anything to do with LGB?
Well Jack - I was trying to understand your post "PIKO PIKO PIKO PIKO PIKO PIKO"
and going back a few posts, the only thing that made sense to me is that you were answering Stan's post...that's why I quoted that in my reply.
And my further comments relate to that.
My comment about quality related specifically to the very original Piko Taurus and yes, I did have one of those for a very short time when I was in Germany earlier this year. It's good value for the money, no question about that and I assume it's not fair to compare it to an LGB engine two and three times the price.
But in general I was thinking more of people buying Piko switches with the same "R-" designation as the LGB switches and expecting them to be direct replacements - a whole bunch of people in Germany were caught this way. That type of thing.
This thread has certainly digressed into a variety of different direction beyond the Piko Starter Sets, perhaps it should just end and a new thread opened with the appropriate topics.
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| | 10/12/2008 8:47 PM |
| Posted By Spule 4 on 10/12/2008 6:51 PM
Two quick questions, if you still have the prototypes around.....
Height from top of rail to top of cab roof in CM/inches?
Height of cab door from floor to top in CM/inches?
Would prefer this from the BR80, but if it is not here, I bet the US loco will be close.
Thanks! Sorry but the sample set is on it's way to the iHobby Expo in Chicago at the moment. I'll do some measuring when the samples return in a few weeks. If anyone out there lives in the Chicago area you might consider going to the show on the consumer days to see them first hand.
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| | 10/12/2008 9:05 PM |
| Thanks, I wondered if this might be the case.
While I make it into Chicago often for work, I never make it there during the hobby shows.
Someone post photos please...... | |
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| | 10/12/2008 9:05 PM |
| Thanks, I wondered if this might be the case.
While I make it into Chicago often for work, I never make it there during the hobby shows.
Someone post photos please...... | |
Garrett
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| | 10/14/2008 2:19 PM |
| Height from top of rail to top of cab roof in CM/inches?
Height of cab door from floor to top in CM/inches?
Would prefer this from the BR80, but if it is not here, I bet the US loco will be close.
I am sure, Doc Wilfer from Piko will answer your question if you ask him. People which saw the BR 80 in Leipzig earlier this month shuddered and turned away. Some left some nasty remarks. Wonder what the international press will write about it.
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| | 10/14/2008 2:32 PM |
| Maybe they didn't look at it from a "starter set" perspective , eh? I'd be interested in hearing what the same folks said about the Schiebeplanenwagen tu 718 and the Offner Drehgestellwagen Eaos 106 (Sliding tarp car and High Side Gondola) ! These products are aimed at two different types of consumers. | | | |
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| | 10/14/2008 4:38 PM |
| Well, the press release did say there was "interest":
http://www.piko.de/e/we_about_us/PIKO_on_Exhibitions_2008/e_Leipzig_08.php
Me?
I still want to see how they run (I have yet to find any vids on YouTube?) and see one "in the plastic" before making final decisions. At the price, I see something for modification Vs. a shelf queen. | |
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| | 10/14/2008 7:58 PM |
| | Well a little birdie told me that Marklin and Silvergate have just reached an agreement for LGB distribution in N/A...we'll have to see if the birdie chirps correctly. Here's hoping!!
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| | 10/14/2008 8:28 PM |
| | And that has to do with PIKO starter sets because........? | | | |
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| | 10/14/2008 10:10 PM |
| You're right, Jack, I'm sorry I posted that in this thread. I see that Knut has started a new thread on it now.
If Piko continues on with the standard gauge line, and Marklin sticks with narrow gauge, I think there is room for both in the market.
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| | 10/15/2008 12:50 AM |
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I'd be interested in hearing what the same folks said about the Schiebeplanenwagen tu 718 and the Offner Drehgestellwagen Eaos 106 (Sliding tarp car and High Side Gondola) !
Well, reading through various forums in Germany and the UK, some few people seem to be very enthusiastic about the new wagons. Others had to wait a few days, for Piko to send them replacements for broken bogies, before they could try them on rails. Most customers mention, they are very light for their seize and need additional weight for safe running. At least they have some suitable wagons now for their Piko locos now.
Looking at the pictures of the Leipzig Fair, I realize they still have the open space on their rail board for larger turnouts. So "beginners" have to look elsewhere, if they want to expand their small circle of track from the beginners pack.
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Fritz / Juergen
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| | 10/15/2008 10:13 AM |
| | Mine came from Germany in perfect condition and run fine..... go figure! | | | |
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| | 11/06/2008 11:03 AM |
| Has anyone compared the new Piko Ore cars (the former MDC mold) with the existing LGB 4x04x cars?
I'm interested in relative size and how they would look together in a consist - not the quality or finish. I know the LGB one is longer, 240mm vs 215mm - but is it also higher and wider, ie are we talking 1:32 scale for Piko and 1:27 scale for LGB? If anyone had a picture of the two side-by-side, that would be ideal.
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| | 11/07/2008 9:55 AM |
| Comparison picture LGB and Piko was posted on the German forum along with some comments about the relativ quality and pricing.
here is the picture:
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| | 11/07/2008 10:15 AM |
| I have no idea about the prices of theses models (either side of the Atlantic) and I am assuming that the NYC is the PIKO offering and the DB one the LGB. In both cases the trucks leave a lot to be desired. The NYC car seems to have much better detail that the DB one, or is it just how the models are photographed? I make little comment regarding the NYC cars load - most loads from various manufacturers lack realism. If I were to buy the NYC car the first item on my agenda would be to retro fit Aristo-Craft trucks. However they are not currently on my wish list.
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| | 11/07/2008 11:24 AM |
| Hi Great Western -
The NYC ore car is actually the LGB one, LGB 41040, and the DB one is the Piko one.
I was more interested in the size comparison when I asked for a photo on the German forum since the Piko car uses the MDC mold.
I also wondered if the LGB NYC car had been touched up, modified or weathered - the person who posted the picture assures me that's the way they both came out of the box.
Current price in Germany is 50 Euros for the LGB car, the one on the left, and 40 Euros for the Piko car. For the 10 Euro price difference, people there in general prefer the LGB car.
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| | 11/07/2008 12:10 PM |
| Hi,
So what does this comparisation picture PIKO/MDC - LGB Hopper say? One is larger than the other. Does any of them have a prototype?
Yesterday at the Köln (Cologne) Exibition they had a circle of track with this BR 80 loco and two of the tiny hoppers at the Piko booth. People passing by burst out laughing loud, when they saw the funny composition.
Some people even turned the transformer knob, to see how the loco is running. It was impossible to run it slow. When you turned the throttle, it jumped off like a goat. Someboy asked, why don´t they offer beginners quality toys. Hardly anybody will be happy with this loco, if they don´t improve it.
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Fritz / Juergen
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| | 11/07/2008 1:12 PM |
| Fritz -
Prototype ???? What's that?
We are talking "Toy Trains" here, not models.
I was just interested to see how the new Piko toy train compares size-wise to the existing LGB toy train.
And I am having fun, thank-you.
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| | 11/07/2008 1:56 PM |
| | Thanks Knut for the clarification. I guess that why the more expensive one looks better. Still don't like the trucks. | |
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