altterrain
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| How about a WWII era wagon top box car?
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W3NZL
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| | 08/09/2008 3:41 AM |
| And of course we'd have to have some of the B&O wagon-top cabooses
to go with those boxcars, wouldn't we.. hehe
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| | 08/09/2008 3:56 AM |
| Hi Brian,
I have been looking at US railroad pics for a while now but I have never seen a wagon top boxcar before. Many thanks for posting a pic of what I guess was not a very common type of car.
I can't say I have even seen a model of one mentioned. But someone will know different I guess. 
The roof shape of the B&O car would blend nicely with the lines of my RS3's. | |
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| | 08/09/2008 6:56 AM |
| | Wow. I've never seen one of those before. | |
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altterrain
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| | 08/09/2008 9:54 AM |
| If I have my history right, the wagon top design was built during WWII. Since most steel was going into building for the war effort (ships, tanks, jeeps, etc.), the wagon top was a material efficient design. I think they are pretty neat looking, too.
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East Broad Top
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| | 08/09/2008 10:00 AM |
| Dave, I agree with you. For some reason, the small steam loco has completely been overlooked by the 1:29 market. I'd also like to see earlier (c. 1900) wood equipment to go with it. It'll never happen, mind you (especially a nice 60' wood-frame Pullman), but since we're dreaming here, why not.
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W3NZL
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| | 08/09/2008 1:54 PM |
| Brian,
The B&O wagontop boxcars (MP-15)were built well before the war 36-38...
At the same time several experimental wagontop baywindow cabeese were
built for test purposes, it was decided in late 41 that they decided to
go with a bunch more of them, unfortunatley the war started and only
about a 100 were built,(I-12)due to material shortages... There were
some more built right around the end of the war I think... Here's a
not so good pic of one, only one I have though...
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dana
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| | 08/09/2008 7:41 PM |
|  using molds on hand this could be built | | | |
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AndyC
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| | 08/10/2008 5:36 AM |
| Posted By Enginear on 08/07/2008 5:10 PM
Andy, Conrail Ray, where did you get those! Man thats the cars I'd like to see produced too. 89' auto rack, and flat w/ trailers, maybe a front runner or spline car set, Joe Paonessa
Joe, Mine are scratch built, got the plans from a 1999 Railroad Model Craftsman magazine for the chasis, and kinda winged the sides and top and end doors of the autorack, from an HO scale autorack car... HO dimensions, times 3 = dang close to 1/29th scale. Cars measure out to 37 and 1/2 inches long...
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Bryan Smith
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| | 08/10/2008 2:00 PM |
| | my dream is about Schnabel car. | |
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| | 08/10/2008 7:33 PM |
| | Andy, you still have the plans? Anything I could see?,Joe jwpcfv@msn.com | | | |
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blackburn49
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Tom Daly
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| | 08/11/2008 2:51 PM |
| Mine is a heavy duty depressed center flat car -- 8 axle variety such as the Walthers (HO) car that came out ..... maybe 10 yrs ago.
I, too, would like to see something unusual like a Schnabel car.
Only trouble is, they would be VERY costly and the chances on someone producing them are somewhere between slim and none ! " border=0>
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| | 08/12/2008 5:43 PM |
| | Now that wagon top car is defiantly an eye catcher. Later RJD | |
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cprwatcher
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| | 08/13/2008 5:55 AM |
| 3800 cu ft cylindrical hopper...
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blackburn49
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| | 08/13/2008 11:02 AM |
| Posted By blackburn49 on 08/11/2008 1:12 AM
The full dome coach: I keep waiting for Aristocraft to produce a version of this. I can distinctly recall that Lewis Polk stated that once the E-8 was produced, the full dome would follow. I no longer see any such references on the Aristo site.. However, being ever-the-optimist, I anxiously await the production of such a car and hope that I allowed for sufficient clearance on my model RR for these units when they finally do arrive. Gee, I wonder if they will come in the AKRR version--probably the only class A domestic semi-private railroad that still operates passenger trains. | |
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| | 08/14/2008 11:45 AM |
| As a few have already said the clyrindrical hopper would be my first. Other include the kaolin tank aristo also planned but never delivered. The COFC/TOFC ALL Purpose Spine car 2-28 -- 1-57, would be another, I now have drawings of the spine car and the clyrindrical hopper, I believe I will et my versions done before they are manufactured.
On the passenger side The CP Park Series Budd Dome Observation, and the Budd Full Dome are also high on my list of cars to have. I will probably end up kitbashing and scratch building them. I could list cars until the cows come home.
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Mark L Horstead
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| | 08/17/2008 5:30 PM |
| Posted By dawinter on 08/08/2008 8:01 PM
What do we get? Huge Pacific's, Hudson's, mikes and even Mallets for crying out load. THREE different GG1's and full length passenger cars. To say nothing of -9's and SD70s.
There's lots of big stuff out there. Just darn few freight cars.
Dave
Precisely.
There are a lot of modern freight cars that are no longer than the large diesels brought out by both major manufacturers.
Nobody can bring out a Dash 9 or SD70MAC, sell enough to be profitable, and seriously claim that there are not enough layouts with broad enough curves to run modern freight cars on, or that they would not sell enough of such freight cars when a train needs more freight cars than locomotives.
I would have bought several of the cylindrical hoppers and kaolin cars - far more than I will buy of the new forty-foot boxcars.
More USA Trains covered hoppers and tank cars in the meantime... | | | |
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Dr G
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| | 08/17/2008 8:24 PM |
| Well, as long as we are asking for stuff we ain't gonna get?!
I want about 25 or 30 of these:
Very few railroads have these Ortner cars, FEC and CSX. And besides there are a lot of hopper varieties out there. I would think this would be a good choice for the market though as it is modern and SHORT (40 feet)-rare in a modern car.
Hay one can only hope. They will probably make one after I figure out how to kitbash or scratchbuild one.
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AndyC
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| | 08/18/2008 9:17 AM |
| Posted By Enginear on 08/10/2008 7:33 PM
Andy, you still have the plans? Anything I could see?,Joe jwpcfv@msn.com
Joe, I am hoping, I still have the magazine with the HO scale plans in it... I did pencil a very sketchy plan of the sides and chasis, but was only a rough drawing, and not detailed at all... Not sure where those are... We built and moved 3 years ago, and I have been working on the yard, and getting a new railroad started, so most of my scratch building time has been spent on the house and yard, and the railroad, not working on scratch building, per say....
I apoligize for not answering sooner... I didn't realize anyone had asked a question about them... I do have some in various stages of assembly, and some pictures of the chasis at various stages of assembly... Am willing to try and help you with any information that you might need, when I can....
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