David Rose
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Charles 1st Class Member
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 | | 01/28/2008 3:00 PM |
| Dave
Thanks for the effort to see the "delayed relay" of the action on the rails. Good selection of locomotives representing interest in NG/SG. | |
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Kovacjr 1st Class Member Lakewood NJ
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 | | 01/28/2008 4:35 PM |
| | Thanks Dave as always the GS4 is a blurrrrrrrrrrrr | |
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tacfoley 1st Class Member
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 | | 01/28/2008 4:53 PM |
| David - any good images of the track-bed and its method of construction? We are about to embark on our new backyard track and need some ideas....
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Charles 1st Class Member
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 | | 01/28/2008 5:26 PM |
| Terry
Mike Moore can detail his layout. If you would like he can be contacted at:
mike [AT] aikenback [DOT] net | |
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Charles 1st Class Member
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 | | 01/28/2008 5:27 PM |
| Terry
Mike Moore can detail his layout.
His layout has been utilized indoors and outdoors (a variety of weather). | |
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David Rose
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 | | 01/29/2008 6:54 AM |
| Terry,
I would highly recommend copying Mikes set-up. The track bolts together in a short period of time and has been used countless times over the years with almost no problems. I believe its made of tubular aluminum, di-bond top held down with Gorilla glue, and SVRR track. | | David Rose http://www.FortWildernessRR.com SA #62 | |
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afinegan 1st Class Member Boca Raton
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 | | 01/29/2008 7:13 AM |
| I have to look into this, want to temp expand my layout at my house, but be able to put it away.
Andrew | | Andrew Finegan SA# 777 Current Project: DJB Coal Fired Ruby
 Current Engines: Accucraft Ruby Butane, DJB Coal Fired Ruby(in construction), Accucraft Shay #2, Aster Thunderbolt | |
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David Rose
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 | | 01/29/2008 7:34 AM |
| This pictures gives some idea of the set-up:
 | | David Rose http://www.FortWildernessRR.com SA #62 | |
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tacfoley 1st Class Member
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 | | 01/29/2008 7:42 AM |
| Ah, David, thanks for the information.
Sadly, I'm not rich enuff for track like that. It would have to be bespoke made here in UK, and I don't know anybody with the facility to deal with that kind of a set-up. Just buying the aluminium would bust my train budget for a year or so. I have to say that the whole thing, particularly the legs, looks purpose-built.
Very nice, though.
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tacfoley 1st Class Member
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 | | 01/29/2008 7:46 AM |
| Charles, many thanks for that advice - I have contacted him, more in hope than in certainty - it sure looks expensive to me!
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Charles 1st Class Member
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tacfoley 1st Class Member
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 | | 01/29/2008 12:25 PM |
| Thanks, Charles - I am more interested in the method of 'topping' the uprights to secure the baseboards than anything else, I have to say.
The yellow saw horses area great idea, but I have to work with what is available here in UK, and they ain't.
Great piccies by the way, I'm heartened, even though my Voyager van is over in Canada, and I'm here!!!
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mrmoore 1st Class Member
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 | | 01/29/2008 6:21 PM |
| I have gotten a few requests for information on the construction of the portable track so I will add a brief description here. Currently, the track is packed up in its trailer so pictures will have to wait until after the next setup. If I get time I will do a longer write-up, perhaps as a SitG article.
The frame of each section is a modified PETS frame made of 1" square aluminum tube. The PETS system has been discussed in earlier posts. The tops are Dibond, which is an aluminum/plastic composite that has the same expansion rate as aluminum. The Dibond is glued to the frame with Gorilla glue. This makes a strong and stiff combination. A previous version used 3/8" marine plywood which was heavier and prone to sag.
The legs are telescoping aluminum pipe. The upper/outer leg is 24" long, threaded at the top with a through hole at the bottom. The inner leg has through holes spaced 2" apart along the lower 18" of its length. Coarse adjustment is accomplished by inserting a hairpin spring clip through the outer leg hole and the appropriate inner leg hole. Fine adjustment is accomplished via a 1/4" bolt at the bottom of the inner leg. The legs are held to the frames by pipe flanges. The pipe flanges are bolted to 1/4" aluminum plate welded to the frame.
I would like to add that I think posting an email address without consent on an open forum is a not a good practice. myLargescale has a facility for reaching members via email without exposing their email addresses and I would hope that myLargescale members would use that facility. Mike Moore | | | |
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Dr Rivet 1st Class Member Purcellville, VA
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 | | 01/29/2008 7:06 PM |
| Tac et al
A couple of observations related to cost [at least here in the USA]. I have discovered that "reasonable" quality kiln dried lumber [ie straight] that will provide a rigid frame for set ups over a period longer than two years, costs about 80% that of 1 x 1 aluminum tube. You don't have to have the frame work done at a specialty shop, any place that repairs trailers can do the aluminum welding pretty cheap. Or bolt and screw it together. You can bend this small tube with a home made bending roller jig just like they use for the rail on "ride on" size trains. Just takes multiple passes to get the tight radius.
The expensive part of Mike's reconstuction that took away the dead weight of all the plywood was the Dibond. The last time I checked, a 4x8 sheet was around $80, about 25% more than high quality marine plywood. Add the price of a couple of layers of high quality marine deck paint [on all surfaces] to protect it from the weather and you have passed the price of DiBond [per sq ft]. However, the Dibond took about 20 pounds off the weight of each straight section. The curves probably dropped about five pounds each. This is important to a bunch of "elder flatulants" that help Mike set the track up 6 or 8 times each year. We attached all the Sunset Valley track using Allen head SS sheet metal screws, and let the turnouts float in position. Track alignment between sections is assured by using rail clamps.
BTW, this construction duplicates the method used by Ron Brown when he rebuilt his Silo Falls permanent outdoor track, except that Ron attached the Dibond with angle clips that were used when he had the wood deck on his original layout.
MIKE, if a web crawler picks up your "open address" and you get too much junk, we can just "auto forward" all of it to Charles.
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Jim | | Jim Stapleton SA# 2.71828 IE&W Railway | |
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Charles 1st Class Member
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 | | 01/29/2008 7:56 PM |
| Mike
My apology for the release of your personal information. My mistake, I thought it was posted in your profile and within the CF information guidelines. Deleted the information. | |
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Dr Rivet 1st Class Member Purcellville, VA
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 | | 01/29/2008 8:44 PM |
| Dave
Nice video clip of my wife's new locomotive.
As I said on another thread... That AC-11 Cab Forward belongs to Jo Anne. When you get around her, don't refer to it as MY engine, unless you want to get a good dose of personal counselling [from her]. She likes HER trains, and you had best not confuse them with mine. That starts with the Z and ends with her 1.6in/ft scale SD35.
See you at Scranton???
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Jim | | Jim Stapleton SA# 2.71828 IE&W Railway | |
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David Rose
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 | | 01/29/2008 9:34 PM |
| Jim,
I should know better... especially after hearing Jo Anne talk about her Cab Forward at Cabin Fever. No excuses. Changed the post, need to edit the video title when I get back to work tomorrow.
Scranton looks like a long shot. More like ECLSTS. Hopefully Accucraft will bring the live steam K-36 there where Jon and I can fight over it... LOL | | David Rose http://www.FortWildernessRR.com SA #62 | |
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