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09/05/2008 9:06 AM  

Despite rumors that I "never" run trains (spread by Jason Kovac LOL) I had the K-27 out last night for some testing of various mods & tune-ups. I've done a lot of work to the suspension (to get the drivers to contact the track better). To test this I loaded all the AMS cars I had available at the time (18) and tested the pulling power. I experienced 0 driver slippage, although the track was dry, so I still wont know about the oiled track you come across at meets... Also we had valve timing and teflon piston rings installed by Tiple R Services.
Anyway, here is the video:
http://www.fortwildernessrr.com/gscale/K-27%209-4-2008.wmv

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09/05/2008 9:47 AM  
David
Similiar to the feedback at Dan's where the performance was denoted as being "impressive!" BTW- for those that might be puzzled that is telfon. Also, we found that the "pressed on" piston head was loose during the break down and retrofit so had to solder it back in place which my have been a contributor to running poorly.


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09/05/2008 9:53 AM  

David, your engine is looking good, but I have to say that all the K27's I have encountered have been extremely powerful pullers without modification. A friend runs his with 10 wagons each carrying a house brick.


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09/05/2008 10:16 AM  
David,
Thanks for the video. That is very nice indeed. Over on the Rolling Stock and Public Forums, the sparkies are having a VERY lively discussion on the merits or demerits of the Auch Mon K-27. It is a riot to hear them yip and yap about gear ratios, voltages etc. Nice when all we have to do is oil around, take on water, check the fire, open the throttle and go. LOVE LIVE STEAM!! BTW Jason WHO??? (triple LOL) Just kidding Jay.
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09/05/2008 11:20 AM  
David,

Thanks for the great video. I look forward to seeing the K-27 with your hand at the throttle next weekend! I really like the work Triple R Services does.

Best regards,

Alan


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09/05/2008 11:22 AM  
Dave,

Looks like you're having fun there. Better stop before you get addicted!

Glad I could be of assistance. See you @ the IE&W

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09/05/2008 11:56 AM  

Rod- For some reason my K-27 (lucky me) came with way, way, too much weight on the trailing truck. The trailing truck was bottomed out and some of the drivers were suspended enough to slide paper under them!! See this old topic for details -

http://archive.mylargescale.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=42494&SearchTerms=K-27

I see you posted to that topic as well. Once you get the drivers pinned down she can pull like a tractor. It should, I weighed the engine wet yesterday and she weighed in at 27 lbs for the engine, and 10 lbs for the tender.

Noel - Yes, the reality you get with live steam is second to none! From the first hiss of steam the day I got my FWRR Ruby, I knew I mine as well pack up the electric stuff.

Alan - I plan to be there. Hope to see your CF.

Ryan - Thanks for the help. It shouldn't be too long until I break something else LOL. Addicted? I can always stop if I need to. I'm in control. I don't have a problem... Sound like an addict? LOL. See you at IE&W for sure.

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09/05/2008 12:46 PM  

David, Apologies, the old post was so long ago that I did not realise this was the same engine, and thought that you had done more than just easing the truck loadings :)

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09/05/2008 1:14 PM  
Rod,

I was working on the K-27 back then .... then the K-28 arrived and the K-27 was parked for a while.... so now I'm trying to finish the K-27 upgrades & fixes. To name a few:

Replace cracked sight glass (damaged during shipment)
Replace kinked lube/steam pipe
Replace bent throttle housing so now it seats and shuts off/stops :-)
Install hand pump in tender & check valve to boiler
Install Tender heater W/ globe valve adjustment
Install protypical tender connections (under side of cab to under side of tender with quick disconnects)
Regauge trailing truck
Disassemble entire gas system and clean per Kevin O'connor method.
RC throttle (gear and chain), RC J-bar, RC head lamp
install rechargable RC battery in tender dog house
grind .050" off all pedestal binders
Remove one spring out of drivers 1 & 2, leave 3 in driver #3, and add 3 new presicion heavy duty ones on driver #4
Add heavier springs to tender truck to eliminate easy side to side tilt (like C-19 tender).
Retime valve gear, hone cylinders, add teflon piston rings.
Sleeve burners to eliminate howl.


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09/05/2008 3:20 PM  
Whooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! Just tried to open your movie and it shut down my computer with the blue screen of death.

So I tried it on both my lap-tops - same thing happened.

Wossup?

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09/05/2008 6:25 PM  
Hey you didnt include my new trestle in the video.. I also see you didnt run fast over the trestle like with my K28 woah Gondolas over the side filled to the top with 2-3" delaware river rock. I guess we did have a bit too much weight since I tore the coupler apart too.


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09/05/2008 6:30 PM  
Tac,
Which movie? David's or Rod's ? Did your machines recover?
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09/05/2008 7:10 PM  
Posted By Kovacjr on 09/05/2008 6:25 PM
Hey you didnt include my new trestle in the video.. I also see you didnt run fast over the trestle like with my K28 woah Gondolas over the side filled to the top with 2-3" delaware river rock. I guess we did have a bit too much weight since I tore the coupler apart too.




You'll see the K-27 cross your trestle in the last secene of the video. I have a great still pic of it crossing as well but I can't get to my darn 1st class space to post it! :crazy:

I think if we had a video of your "Casey Jones" run last weekend with your super power K-28 people would be playing it over and over. :hehe:

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09/05/2008 7:11 PM  
Tac,

If it is my video I'm sorry to hear that, but I have no idea why it's not working for you....???

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09/06/2008 7:49 AM  
TAC,
Instead of running the movie right from the MLS post, right click on the url, then Save Target AS... and put the target on your desktop. Close MLS, then run the movie. I think your're just running out of memory.

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09/06/2008 2:27 PM  

Here is the trestle:


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