Dave -- Use Coal
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 | | 05/09/2008 10:28 AM |
| Can anyone tell me what types of locomotives were used in the 1964 movie "The Train" with Burt Lancaster?
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Tom Leaton
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| | 05/09/2008 1:30 PM |
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Dave-
Here are two links to discussions, and a third link to a site that has stills from the film. (You can paste the URLs.)
I don't recognize the locomotives.
They appear to be a prewar design and are almost certainly French (in my view) as the filming took place in outside of Paris in the late 1960s.
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| | 05/09/2008 1:44 PM |
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gibs035
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| | 05/09/2008 2:20 PM |
| Here is the link to the train crash in the movie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmsxtErEVrw
Hope you can find out what engine it is.
One of the comments on the film was that it had to be a French Loco since the film was done in France and during the war the action itself took place there. Hope this helps you Dave the "Coal"
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| | 05/09/2008 3:39 PM |
| Posted By Dave -- Use Coal on 05/09/2008 10:28 AM Can anyone tell me what types of locomotives were used in the 1964 movie "The Train" with Burt Lancaster? " border=0> Dave Young Santa Fe, Texas
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Dave -- Use Coal
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| | 05/09/2008 4:19 PM |
| | "Steam" is not exactly the answer I was looking for but, granted, it is a correct answer. | | | |
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Garry Paine
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| | 05/09/2008 4:42 PM |
| The trailer shows it to be loco "230 B 711", if I read it correctly. The SNCF 230B class is a 4-6-0, which is what the loco appears to be.
http://orion.math.iastate.edu/jdhsmith/term/slfrsncf.htm has a list of SNCF steam locos and a little data on the 230B class.
One of the movie sites notes a blooper in that some of the steam locos in the film are post WWII.
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| | 05/09/2008 5:17 PM |
| Looking at a still on the U tube just before the crash ..230B you can see two tail rods below the smokebox and out side cylinders as well so: a 4 cylinder compound,, the "Crampton" steam pipes to the outside High pressure cylinders are there[but look to be without casings. insulation is visible.] cab style and front window shades . 6wheel tender..and two reach rods to the independent high and low pressure valve gears, on the left hand side. most likely a "Est" 4-6-0 mixed traffic built 1901-1912 and in her very final days in 1964!
The loco it hits is avery! old 0-6-0 dating from the 1880s outside cylinders and Stephenson gear as well..France and spain had these in numbers and some lasted a very long time, pottering about in yards. | | | |
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Dave -- Use Coal
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| | 05/09/2008 5:24 PM |
| I have a DVD copy of the movie. I will take a look to see if it has a copy of the trailer included.
If I read the information in the chart correctly, the engine is the French version of the Prussian P8. Does anyone know if I read this chart correctly?
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| | 05/09/2008 9:51 PM |
| Dave,
The Prussian P8 was a 2 cylinder Simple designed by Garbe. the Est where 4 cylinder Compunds designed by Salomon, but designed for similar duties..two more diffrent designs would be hard to find! if the chart state that, then its an error. | | | |
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Garry Paine
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| | 05/11/2008 1:52 PM |
| Thanks for explaining that the locos were compounds; that helps the SCNF table make more sense.
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