fgw745
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 | | 02/21/2008 5:02 AM |
| this is a link to a video i shot monday
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=28797291 | | | |
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trainmax
New Orleans, LA
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| | 02/21/2008 7:16 AM |
| | Jerry That mike sounds good!! | |
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trainmax
New Orleans, LA
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| | 02/27/2008 8:35 PM |
| This is a clip of a K28 with the new bark box.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wnhr-66Vt2Q | |
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Kovacjr
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Lakewood NJ
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| | 02/27/2008 9:01 PM |
| | So what is this bark box? any photos? | |
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NHSTEAMER
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| | 02/28/2008 2:54 PM |
| Jason,
I found it. go to trainsales.com | |
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hawkeye2
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| | 03/02/2008 7:08 AM |
| | Is there a problem with trainsales.com's site? I have tried to go there 3 times (I'm using WebTV) and after a very long waite my system has been shut down just as if I shut off the power. This is a very rare occurance and usually indicates a serious problem with the site I am trying to access. I was looking for info on the bark box.Steamaholic 470
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weaverc
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| | 03/02/2008 7:42 AM |
| Click here:
http://www.trainsales.com/
Works fine for me, might be your ISP | |
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chooch
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Houghton Lake, Michigan
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| | 03/02/2008 7:52 AM |
| Doug,
I just checked out the site and it worked fine for me. One page had some bad links to pictures, but overall it was fine. If you would like to contact them, the name shown is:
Richard Jacobs:
To order
Send $100.00 check or money order to
Richard Jacobs
2459 Odin
New Orleans, LA 70122
Please state the type of locomotive you will be using your bark box in.
We will need the diameter of you smoke box and the size of your exhaust pipe
also cylinder bore and stroke We have most Accucraft sizes of file.
Now, I also found this information on another page. I'd call first.
Richard Jacobs (504) 283-8091
Due to Hurricane Katrina, R & R Train Company, Inc. has been forced to change our address to a Temporary Mailing Address: P.O. Box 304, Convent, LA 70723 Please contact us at (504) 343-8091.
Now for the other necessary stuff. I have no connection in any way with the company listed above. Although I do know Richard from the annual steamups at Diamondhead, in no way am I connected with or receive compensation from Richard or R & R Train Company, Inc.
I did hear one of these on a K-27 (I believe) owned by Chris Sortina at Diamondhead. The sound was excellent, even with all the noise of the people in the area. Got some attention for sure. | |
Fred in Houghton Lake, Michigan
Home of the Muskegon River Logging Company
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fgw745
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| | 03/02/2008 8:54 PM |
| | he is at the oden street address | | | |
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NHSTEAMER
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| | 03/03/2008 2:40 PM |
| If anyone dose get one of these Bark Boxes on SG locos please let me know how it sounds and what effect it has on running (back pressure) for what loco you have it on. I would like to know if it is worth the $100.
Thank You | |
Bill Megill Jr SA# 3028
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Kovacjr
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Lakewood NJ
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| | 03/03/2008 4:57 PM |
| | Does anyone have any photos of this thing? I curious to see what you get for 100.00 Obvously it is a chuff amplifier but what kind of design? Like Bill stated Id like to see it to buy it. | |
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aceinspp
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| | 03/04/2008 6:27 AM |
| | Yes Photo please and also how dificult is it to install? Later RJD | |
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NHSTEAMER
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| | 03/04/2008 7:06 AM |
| I spoke to Richard last night he states that install is very easy, you just cut down the chuff pipe and it slides on snuggly. Understandably he dose not want to post any photos due to it most likely will be copied. So I decided to order one for my GS-4, I will post how it sounds after install. | |
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trainmax
New Orleans, LA
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| | 03/04/2008 1:34 PM |
| | OK here's the deal I have installed this on A K27,K28 GS4,C16, Mogul and a Ruby. They all work well however the Ruby sounded good but in a noise room it would be hard to hear. Sorry no photos of the Bark Box Besides what it look like does not matter, what it sounds like HA HA now that's what counts. | |
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Charles
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| | 03/04/2008 3:07 PM |
| Nothing against the product being discussed; I love the stack talk only if it related to top performance. If one gets the chance compare the stock setup of Aster and Accucraft GS4 for sound relative to performance.
Kinda like someone who's car has a good exhaust sound but it ain't going any where fast! | |
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rwjenkins
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Lawrence, Massachusetts USA
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| | 03/04/2008 4:27 PM |
| It would be interesting to see what effect (if any) these have on the engine's performance and on the steam plume. They certainly sound impressive.
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Kovacjr
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Lakewood NJ
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| | 03/04/2008 5:59 PM |
| I would have to assume that it is similar to these. I forget who posted these in the past on here. Anyway I copied them fo my files for later reference to try and build. There are a few that someone made the same design using a .45 cartridge.
I'll have to check out Bill's Although he does have the proper nozzle and petticoat exact from the Aster GS4 so I assume that would affect the draft a bit? Who knows.... |
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Charles
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| | 03/04/2008 6:11 PM |
| Jay
I know someone who knows...
Placing a sound relfection device onto an engine that has loud stack talk due to problematic steam delivery is one thing but it could aggravate based on the principles as expressed by Gordon Watson (as per G1MRA post) related to smokebox components:
The basic requirements are,1- blast nozzle approximately 1/10th diameter of cylinder daimeter 2- Blast nozzle must be vertical under the chimney,and exactly centred! 3- Blast nozzle distance from face of nozzle to chimney bottom is determined by diameter of the internal chimney in aratio of 1 to 3 .its best to make a simple conical test piece, whcih can drop into the nozzle, this will set hieght and alignment both at the same time. 4- Its quite easy to make the blast nozzle an adjustable screwed top , and copper pipe underneath , this allows vertical adjustment and alignment . 5- The blower tip should be very small! lots of locos waste large amounts of steam raising pressure. 0.5mm is fine.and of course the blower tip must not be in the gas stream of the blast nozzle and aligned to blow up the chimney! 6- When designing the smokebox, think about how it will assemble and seal..if you can work in an automatic seal around the blast nozzle using aO ring or similar so tha bolting down the smokebox pulls it down onto that,,easier than doing a brickies trowelling job with sealant around the pipes,. Gordon Watson So, if one could combine the above principles with a sound box we would be able to get rid of sound systems in certain live steam engines! In practical operational sense it seems to me that at this point one will have to choose from either a good running engine or a good sounding engine based on desing principles.
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trainmax
New Orleans, LA
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| | 03/04/2008 6:27 PM |
| Well I can tell ya there is no effect on the performance of any kind. I can't say if it makes more or less plume, But the way it's made you would think it would make more. But so far I have only run my K in hot weather so I cant tell. There's two other things that happen when you install a Bark Box, #1 Your Locomotive will never every spit out the stack again every. #2 As time goes by steam oil residue will accumulate on the baffles in the Bark Box and when you fire your locomotive up it burns off makes a nice plume just sitting there waiting for the water to boil .
Richard
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Kovacjr
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| | 03/04/2008 6:29 PM |
| | Yes Charles I did see Gordons post yesterday and Copied it to my folder for when I need it. That coal fired mogul for one! | |
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