Hi Henner,

I follow your report of the Guinness loco since the beginning and I like the project much more from every visit.
At least, I'm a big fan of the beer too and in live steam on 45mm and 5" gauge.

I did some calculating today and building the Guinness-loco in 7/8th scale will bring her on approx. 45mm gauge.
Using 7/8th scale for the 1600mm irish broad gauge will turn out as approx 5" gauge. So this may be a project than can run on both track system that I use.

But first of all, I've to finish the big Shay, but later on, I may build a nice little Guinness train...

Thanks for your report and please keep up the good work and photos.

Cheers, Gerd

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Henner and Mark, those couplers are beautiful
Where does the chain go when it is hooked up?

Looking great Henner! What are the couplers machined from?

Well, I just used the calculator...

My first thought was while using 7/8th scale, it's a standard model railroad scale.

Let's look at the gauges of the Guinness tramway.

Prototype Gauge "Guinness Tramway" = 558,8mm (22")
Prototype Gauge "Broad Gauge" = 1600mm (5' 3")

Setting the "Guinness" onto 45mm gauge will result in 1:12,4 scale
Using this scale for the broad gauge will result in 129mm gauge, what is 2mm more than 5"gauge.

As you'll know, I actually drive on both gauges at home, so building this Guinness train set will give me the chance to operate it on both layouts.

So, I'll go for 1:12,4 scale and will build the Guinness in this scale. Euroepan std. gauge cars on 5"-gauge are build in 1:11 (1:11,3) and they may fit to the guinness loco. Otherwise, I can build 2 broad gauge cars too... I start to really like this project (at least, I'm a big fan and sponsor of Guinness beer "cheers" ;-) )

But for now, back to Henners great model. I'll watch the next steps until completition and I'm interested in details about the bogie flat cars used with the Guinness. Do you have some good photos or drawings of those cars too? I couldn't find any helpfulll in the internet.

Bye, Gerd

Beautiful work Henner.   To lay some dual gauge track.

Thanks Henner. Doesn't look like brass in the photo (to me at least). Must be the lighting.

Here is a link to a PDF file on building the Guinness loco on the 16mm NGM site

http://www.16mm.org.uk/newsite/file...fault.html

Nice model by Bob Bath.

Charles M SA # 74

Hi Henner,

I couldn't find any helpfull on this link. Are you sure that it's correct?
Or maybe I'm blind and doesn't see it...

Bye, Gerd

Thanks Steve.

These might be the book that Henner mentioned above, but the link doesn't show it to me...

Bye, Gerd

Steve,
thank you very much for the .pdf. It seems to be the publication mentioned in the book and has much more information and larger pictures.
Gerd,
it is possible Google blocks these books for use outside the US.
Charles,
these are the drawings I am working on (see link at the beginning of the thread) and my loco is an exact replica of Bob's. We are in touch.
Regards

Thanks for the plug Henner, I am now just one shy :)

If you etched that name plate you can certainly etch diamond tread plate. I recently purchased the Pro-Etch Kit from Micromark If you can draw it on a computer you can etch it! With all that said...I havnt tried it yet perhaps it is not as easy as all that.

Looks good Henner. Good job!