KCHahn
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 | | 07/25/2008 7:55 AM |
| Finally got the long overdue G-Wire reciever and Aristo PnP sound board for my Rio Grande GP40's. Control is great, and the sounds even better!
But, is there a list of functions available, as well as what function is controlled by which button?
Right now, I know the following:
Button 0 - Lights
Button 1 - Bell
Button 2 - Horn
Other buttons control a few other functions. But, I'd like to find
an actual list of each function etc....
Have not yet checked the QSI site, but will be doing that in a few minutes.
Information appreciated.
Thanks.
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ConrailRay
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| | 07/26/2008 7:59 PM |
| Keith,
I didn't get any G scale QSI sound cards yet (on the list!) but I recently got an HO scale Atlas -8 CR loco with qsi in it. It came with a sould / function map, so you might be able to find the list under the HO section of the site as well. Also note, on the HO version, and I'm assuming the G version, some functions will call different sound effects depending on if the loco is at a stand still or running.
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rpc7271
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| | 07/27/2008 9:03 PM |
| I use The QSI Quantum Programer to program my locos. It comes with a Test Cap to run/test the locos. The functions on it are as follows:
F1……. Bell
F2……. Horn
F3……. Coupler Sound
F4……. Cooling Fans
F5……. Dynamic Brakes
F6……. Start Up
F7……. Long Air Let Off
F8……. Mute All Sound
F9……. Discon/Standby/Shutdown
F10…... Status Report
F11…... Std/Alt Horn Selection
F12…... Primary Smoke
There is a very large manual (267 pages) on the QSI site, the "NMRA DCC Referencr Manual for QSI Quantum Q1a and Q2 Equipped Locomotives" That MAY be helpfull. It covers all the functions and CVs (Configuration Varables). It was originally written for their HO scale equipment but much is the same for G scale. Download it, print it out. Set aside a couple of weekends, get everyone you know who knows anything about DCC and study it. After you figure it all out let me know so I can ask you all sorts of questions. | | | |
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N1CW
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| | 07/28/2008 3:50 AM |
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Keith
I hope that you got the newer remote (per last Feb. posting).
That way you have access to F10 (Status Report) without remapping the buttons.
Only about 20 pages are "Keepers", the others use to start a fire when it starts
to snow next week in Colo...;^)....
Roger - Did you ever get your "Beep-Beep" horn sound?
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rpc7271
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| | 07/28/2008 1:40 PM |
| | Nope, not yet, but it is a low priority right now. | | | |
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KCHahn
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| | 07/28/2008 10:23 PM |
| Posted By N1CW on 07/28/2008 3:50 AM
Keith
I hope that you got the newer remote (per last Feb. posting).
That way you have access to F10 (Status Report) without remapping the buttons.
Only about 20 pages are "Keepers", the others use to start a fire when it starts
to snow next week in Colo...;^)....
Roger - Did you ever get your "Beep-Beep" horn sound?
If the newer remote is the Airwire T-9000, then yes, I have the newer version.
I've also been messing with the remote and buttons, to see what they do.
Still no instruction yet, but to be found soon.
The locomotive runs good, with no changes to CV's, as suggested in the soundboard manual. Sounds even better! Just gotta wait until my second G-wire reciever arrives and I can outfit my other GP40! | |
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Greg Elmassian
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| | 08/08/2008 1:29 PM |
| There is a short manual, just a couple of pages that should have been included with the QSI, that explains DC operation and the function keys, for example, F6 does startup indeed, but only when the loco has been shut down. when running it does doppler shift of the horn/whistle.
The short manual is useful for these basic questions and to not have to wade through the larger manual just to get started. (By the doppler shift is really fun).
If you did not get the manual, email me and I'll scan mine (be sure to tell me diesel or steam in the email)
Regards, Greg | |
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KCHahn
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| | 08/09/2008 8:03 AM |
| Greg,
I got the installation sheet for the reciever.
Also got a 12 page installation information manual with the sound boards.
Explains how to install board. Shows wiring diagrams and what plugs do what etc...
Includes a list of CV's, what they are, and default decimal value.
Plus a quick basic installation for HO steam/ diesel locomotives.
Need function controls for an Aristo Craft GP40 diesel.
Eventually a USAT ALCo PA and an NW-2.
FWIW: Do NOT have the Quantum programmer at this time.
Is this something to look into getting, for locomotive programming etc...?
Again, any/all help is much appreciated.
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Greg Elmassian
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| | 08/09/2008 10:46 PM |
| I'm a bit confused, the sheet that comes with the QSI PNP board lists what functions do what, and since they are sounds, they are all the same for all boards, of course there are differences between steam and diesel, but same. No difference between Alco or GP, although you will not have dynamic brake sounds if it's not appropriate for the loco you have.
Maybe you do not have the right sheet. The one I got tells you what function does what...
The programmer lets you customize sounds and download new ones into your unit. It's worth it in my opinion.
I'm confused on how you got an install sheet for HO locos when you have a G scale deoder.
email me privately, I'll send you the manuals in pdf form.
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KCHahn
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| | 08/12/2008 12:42 AM |
| Greg,
Instructions are for the G Scale decoder. It just includes 1 page, on HO installation in steam/diesel locomotives.
As mentioned, only the installation instructions. The only list I have, is the CV list and what each CV is. Nothing else.
Will look into the programmer next time around.
Ordered everything from Tonys Train Xchange, and had nothing but trouble from the beginning. Not sure if they forgot to include anything or not. Took better than 3 weeks to get initial order, then an extra 2 weeks for a backordered reciever. Virtually NO contact either.
Anyway, I've been using the functions I do know, and have experimented a bit
with a few others, just to see what they do, or don't do. Figure I can do a complete reset if I screw something up! | |
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Jerryj
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| | 08/13/2008 10:26 AM |
| | I have the QSI PnP board for AC Dash 9 with QSI receiver and airwire 1300 it works good but you have no button for F9 only 0-8,Or am I doing something wrong? The first time I did this it did not work the installation sheet for the cable was wrong. | | | |
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Greg Elmassian
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| | 08/13/2008 8:48 PM |
| Unfortunately, the thing you did "wrong" was get the transmitter that cannot send F9. I would strongly recommend the "better" transmitter. You are missing a lot of the functions available.
Sorry...
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N1CW
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| | 08/15/2008 8:20 AM |
| Posted By Jerryj on 08/13/2008 10:26 AM
I have the QSI PnP board for AC Dash 9 with QSI receiver and airwire 1300 it works good but you have no button for F9 only 0-8,Or am I doing something wrong? The first time I did this it did not work the installation sheet for the cable was wrong.
Jerryi
re: 1300
As Greg said...sorry....1300 only supports F0-F8 -
BUT dont commit Harikari - It will get the track all stickey...;^(...
You can 'swap' less used functions F7 (Long Air Let-Off) with
some neat ones like F9 (Shutdown) or F10 Status Report.
A 24ish page booklet came with my decoder.
Diesel Loco Operation Manual 6-May-2006 Man ver 4.1 Page 10
right under the DCC Operation listing.
re: ?Installation sheet?
If your talking about the Q-wire, then yes the words are different than
the picture...FOLLOW THE WORDS.....
The PHOTONS above are good for only one reading and subject to change
at the whim of the internet....sorry....no longer valid..MAYBE...;^)..
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Jerryj
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| | 08/15/2008 6:49 PM |
| Thanks Greg,N1CW .Iam going to upgrade to the 9000. From what I was told 1300 and 9000 have been upgraded, check there website.
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Jerryj
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| | 08/18/2008 6:03 PM |
| I did like Ray said remap I did it worked one time and it when back to the old way and been able to do it again. I did service mode OPS I don't know if I am brain dead from not working or what. I woud like to change the keys then I can do the shut down.
Thanks
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rpc7271
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| | 08/19/2008 2:44 PM |
| | QSI aka Tonys Train Xchange has made quality HO decoders and sound decoders for years. When they entered th G scale market they were able to use most of the HO programing for the G scale stuff since it meets the NMRA standards. All of the CV's are the same. They just have never produced a G scale manual. You can use all of the HO scale stuff for G scale, it would just be nice if they would copy the manual for g scale and everywhere it says HO change it to G. | | | |
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Greg Elmassian
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| | 08/19/2008 10:00 PM |
| Just for the record, QSI Industries makes the decoders. QSI solutions (owned by Tony) sells them, and funds the manufacturing runs. They are 2 different companies.
And there is a new revision to the manual, all 267 pages of it.
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Jerryj
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| | 08/29/2008 6:34 AM |
| Hi
I did the key swapping again on page 10 Manual 4.0 Q1a Diesel and it did not work.I called QSI and talked with Lou and then Len told them what I did and they said this was right did not know why it is not working.Did the programming in the OPS Mode *49* #9# *50* #1# *53* #145# did get verbal acknowledgement for the Cv values and yes I put new batteries in. What's with this.
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Greg Elmassian
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| | 09/16/2008 1:40 AM |
| You do not have a Q1a board, You have a Q2, otherwise known as a Quantum 2..... all G scale units are Q2....
Please get the right manual first.... there was a reason I mentioned 267 pages.... to verify you got the right manual... just like the missing manual in the beginning of this thread...
just received my 15th or so QSI and it came with a manual showing all the functions for sounds ...
is this the manual you used? http://www.qsisolutions.com/pdf/quantumdccrefmanual_4_3_0.pdf
it is version 4.3.0...
if not, please download...
Then tell me what CV's you are changing... it looks like you are trying to change the outputs, this is not remapping functions to other keys... it's semantics...
you map "functions" to outputs, there are 14 outputs (but the QSI hardware you have does not have them all, the HO one does and some upcoming ones will)....
anyway, map functions to outputs... this is like a lghting feature to a particular output wire... this is what you were programming...
then you can map one of these to be operated by a function button (which is want you want to do, and weren't)
you want CV's 33-46 ....
Regards, Greg
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