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08 Jan 2012 11:35 AM  
So, what do you consider yourself being?
Kit builder (3)
 6%
Kit basher (15)
 32%
Scratch builder (19)
 40%
Buyer (10)
 21%
ok, my Collector or operator poll left some of you wanting a choice of builder or even a scratch builder.
While I can come up with some pretty good ideas in my head. (Lots of room in there you know) When it comes down to actually creating the idea, I fall far short of most of the quality items displayed on this site by a few of you. So while I may repaint an item and decal it, I still consider myself nothing more than a buyer. For the most part, I only buy what I like, so I tend to leave them as bought.
 
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08 Jan 2012 11:58 AM  
I am mainly a kit basher, everything I run has been modified and detailed to some degree.
I do some scratch-building too, with various commercial parts added.

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08 Jan 2012 12:38 PM  
I got into garden railroading because my therapist said I needed a hobby. I don't know how or when but I have become an adamant scratchbuilder. John
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08 Jan 2012 12:48 PM  
I bashed a lot of kits in my HO days, but with so few kits available near 1:29 (that aren't plainly European architecture or Old West, etc.) I fear that I may have no choice but to try actually building something from scratch.
 
For now, I'll consider myself a kit basher. To wit:
 
 
CCRR's temporary passenger station, which started life as a pair of bird feeders from Lowe's.
 
 
 
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08 Jan 2012 01:32 PM  
ha ha ha  Again you fail to take into account the complexity of the human psyche and limit the vote to just one of many overlapping venues.
 
EVERYBODY is a kit builder when it comes to track layout. I don't know of anyone selling complete layouts except it kit form  (How would you ship it?)
 
I "bought" an Aster KIT and thoroughly enjoyed building it... so much so that I bought another one and built it. 
 
Then I bought a MDC caboose kit and botched it so badly I threw it away in utter frustration.    I gave away the other two kits I had. 
 
I bought the rest of my rolling stock.
 
Then there is my dynamoter car...  I "bought" a 1:29 boxcar (not a kit) but it dwarfed my 1:32 scale locomotive so I striped it down to a flat car and added a gear to one axle to drive a telephone dial clutch to add brakes to the train and added an electronic fish-scale to measure the pull on the drawbar.  Then glued magnets to another axle to drive a bicycle speedometer.  Is it a kit bash or is it scratch built?
 
So which category do I fall into?
 
 
What is the difference between a "kit basher" and a "scratch builder"?  I can say that a "scratch builder" maybe starts with non-descript chunks of metal, plastc and wood and manufactures all the parts of the end product... but if there are any pre-manufactured parts (wheels, trucks, knobs, handles, etc.) that they do not modify in shape or form, are they still a "scratch builder"?
 
What if the starting point is a pre-manufactured car and someone just modifies the daylights out of it... Are they a "kit basher" if it wasn't a "kit" to begin with?  What if all they do is paint the handrail or replace the wheels?
 
 
 

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08 Jan 2012 02:27 PM  
I am primarily a buyer, but when a kit comes along the provides something I don't have, I'll buy it and build it.
 
A few years ago I built a Phil's Narrow Gauge D&RGW 40' reefer and I am in the process of building two kits from Sheridan Products.  One is a 1:20.3 D&RGW 4000 series (27.5') box car and the other is a 1:22.5 D&RGW caboose.
 
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08 Jan 2012 06:56 PM  
I scratch build and/or bash structures...... I fear ruining perfectly good working model trains!!!


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09 Jan 2012 03:18 AM  
Basher for sure, I own almost nothing that hasn't been modified, altered, or changed in some way or another...
Sometimes the alterations R so radical that I think it'd been easier to scratch-build though...
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09 Jan 2012 08:39 AM  
You have to ask???
 
 
Its bashing time...wheres my hammer.
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09 Jan 2012 08:58 AM  
Buyer, basher, builder or scratch builder?
All of the above. For I am a model RailRoader      
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15 Feb 2012 07:54 PM  
Posted By vsmith on 09 Jan 2012 08:39 AM
You have to ask???
 
 
Its bashing time...wheres my hammer.

I'm with vic, junkbox mayhem rules!
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16 Feb 2012 03:01 AM  
I build my own buildings and want to get into the rolling stock and loco part, but dont know where to start with the locos.Love to build the buildings even if I never would use them....
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16 Feb 2012 06:16 AM  
but don't know where to start with the locos.
You may find David Fletcher's first MasterClass 2001 of interest (See the sticky post "MasterClasses and Articles" in the forum with the same name). Even if you don't wish to build that locomotive, there's a wealth of info in there on the techniques and materials required to scratchbuild any locomotive you have drawings for. The other MasterClasses in the same index can add other techniques to your repertoire also.
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16 Feb 2012 11:46 AM  
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Posted By Rod Fearnley on 09 Jan 2012 08:58 AM
Buyer, basher, builder or scratch builder?
All of the above. For I am a model RailRoader      
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16 Feb 2012 01:49 PM  
all of the above
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16 Feb 2012 06:11 PM  
All of the above. Trouble with buying kits is remembering to build them! Been a builder and rebuilder of track and switches lately. And then I bashed a combine and a coach into a diner.

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16 Feb 2012 06:24 PM  
All of the above, as some of you know. :-)

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17 Feb 2012 09:34 AM  
I'm another "all of the above" modeler. 
 
The odd thing is that when I first started in December, 1985, I thought the equipment (mostly LGB) was too expensive and desirable as collector's items to modify.  But it wasn't too long before I became tired of the hook and loop couplers and changed them out for knuckle couplers (mostly Delton and Lionel), then the plastic wheels got replaced.  THEN I needed some butts in the seats of the passenger cars AND lights. Once the long slide down the slippery slope began, there was no end to it. 
 
It's a lot of fun though.  Sometimes I imagine that I'm kinda like that little pig in the GICO commercials, just screaming "Whee!  Whee!! Whee!!!" the whole time.
 
Randy, perhaps you may be able to add an "All of the Above" button so we can actually vote for this option.
 
Have fun,
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17 Feb 2012 02:17 PM  
I do what I can, limited only by my lack of ability (and sometimes I don't even let that stop me). What I've learned is that if you are willing to start over enough times you can get through some projects that looked too difficult in the beginning.

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21 Feb 2012 10:24 AM  
Scratch builder. Everything that I build was REAL (unfortunately)...

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22 Feb 2012 01:32 AM  
 
 
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26 Feb 2012 01:33 PM  
All of the above - it's hard not to be as the bug bites hard. You can't buy a C30-7A or SW1500 or Hi-Cubes or Gons and Flats longer than 40ft! In the end you just have to bash or build for yourself............and thats when the adventure really begins!
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