lotsasteam
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| 12 Sep 2009 09:44 PM |
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Anoy you neighbors,its music in our ears!
Looks like it works !
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| 12 Sep 2009 10:29 PM |
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Pretty cool! |
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| 13 Sep 2009 08:22 AM |
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You have me interested! Just contacted them to place an order.
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| 19 Sep 2009 04:02 PM |
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I put a Summerlands Chuffer Pipe (SCRH-1) in my Roundhouse Billy and the installation took less than 30 minutes. The instructions that come with it are easy to follow and right on. Only tools needed are a flat head screw drive to remove the 3 screws holding the smoke box on, a small file or emory board, and a cutting wheel for your Dremmel tool (or a small metal saw if you don't have a Dremmel). Other than cutting the two exhaust pipes to the proper length, no modifications are required. The chuff pipe is a press fit on to the two cut exhaust pipes.
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| 19 Sep 2009 04:36 PM |
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Got a Summerfield chuffer from NGT Models and installed it in my Fort Wilderness Ruby; the sound is now awesome - very loud and distinct chuffs even at low speeds. As a side benefit I no longer get showered with steam and oil when starting up.
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| 19 Sep 2009 05:16 PM |
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Tom,
I've only run Billy solo so far. It is louder than before, but due to the size of the device, the chuff is a little high pitched compared to my two bark boxes. But, it's a definite improvement that I can hear and I'm sure will improve even more with a load of cars. A good test will be at ECLST this coming weekend when I can run it inside, take a video and compare it to the video I took last year. By the way, my Billy is about 17 or 18 years old (I think it's a second generation because the smoke box is removable) with several hundred runs and many hours on it and no overhaul, so I suppose a lack of compression is playing a part in the quality of the sound. My guess is that the chuff pipe would sound a lot louder on a tight locomotive. |
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Jerry Barnes
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| 19 Sep 2009 07:11 PM |
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I should get mine early next week for my Aristo Mikado, will take it down to Martys on Friday. |
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| 20 Sep 2009 05:13 PM |
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Jerry Let me know how it works out. Send me a couple of Pics. Later RJD |
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| 20 Sep 2009 06:08 PM |
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I added a home made Chuff Pipe to my Mamod. Now i can hear it from the far side of my loop (about 40' away). It chuffs great on a small grade with four tipper cars. |
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Jerry Barnes
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| 21 Sep 2009 07:55 PM |
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I got my Summerlands Chuffer today from NGT Models. I had sent them the stock chuff pipe from my Aristo LS Mikado. Got it back real fast. It was an easy install, main thing is to use a piece of K&S brass, about 1/4" i.d., cut a slot across the end and bend it out slightly so it goes over the nut to unscrew the stock chuff pipe. Luckily that piece will slide over the Chuffer when you install it. I had tried a couple like this, but not that thick of brass, it is capped on the end also. You can see it is soldered on near the Aristo nut. You can see the top of the chuffer. I have not tried it out yet.
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| 21 Sep 2009 08:51 PM |
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Posted By lotsasteam on 12 Sep 2009 09:44 PM
Anoy you neighbors,its music in our ears!
Manfred Diel
What!!!! You think I need a noisy steamer to annoy my neighbors..... You underestimate me young man... |
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| 21 Sep 2009 09:02 PM |
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Looks good. Would this be a simple unscrew the existing pipe and screw in the chuff pipe in a Riby/Ida/Mimi? Do any of you have one in a Ruby yet? My Ida barely whispers when it's running. |
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Jerry Barnes
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| 22 Sep 2009 09:03 AM |
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Jim Spanier ordered one for his Ida, they make a model for it. I think most of their installations are just a un-screw and screw in. Removing
the smokebox is not necessary for most of the locomotives, as I understand, Might check out their web site. Link is in the first message. |
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| 22 Sep 2009 09:29 AM |
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What i am worried about is the exhaust heat might damage the plastic around the stack because of restricted exit area!
Manfred Diel
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| 22 Sep 2009 09:51 AM |
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The (Fort Wilderness) Ruby is just an unscrew and screw in affair. Though on mine I did take the stack off to see how it all fit and to make it easier to get the chuff pipe squared up. About half an hour in all. Garrett |
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| 22 Sep 2009 03:20 PM |
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Manfred, when I sealed the gap between the metal smokebox and the boiler, I also added some insulation, have a piece in
front of the front boiler plug also. |
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| 28 Sep 2009 12:16 PM |
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Hi Just read this thread and thought some folk might be interested with my experiences with the Summerlands Chuff Pipes. As far as I know, I was the first to fit one to a Roundhouse Sandy River #24. It was a fiddly job, but the result speaks for itself: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdI5_KW7Q2U Grateful thanks to Trevor (main131) for letting me use his great railway to try her out. He also took the vid. Having fit this and being extemely satisfied, I emailed Chris Bird (the designer) enquiring about a Chuff Pipe for the Accucraft 3 Cyl Shay. After a few exchanges of information he sent me a protoype to try out (not having a Shay himself). The results were disappointing, probably because of the beat of the 3 cylinders, but I asked if he could make a few changes so I could try it with my 2 cylinder Shay. The necessary changes were made and Chris speedily sent the version back to me. This was an instant success and a complete doddle to fit - it merely screws directly into the manifold replacing the original exhaust pipe. The transformation was incredible, the resulting chuff was almost too loud! Some changes were made to this prototpe, and I do believe this chuff pipe should be ready to order, if not now, then very soon. I have a few shots on Youtube, but believe me the sound on the vid just doesn't do justice to the real thing! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=045n-fXLqSI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rbUjfVSFuk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVksy2egqqo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWOnh3PdaTc (links made active by Peter Bunce - moderator)
I hadn't posted anything before on these forums because of it being Chris' baby, but as it looks like these Chuffers are already arriving in the USA, I don't think I've stolen his thunder - I sincerely hope not anyway!
BTW - I'm just a very satisfied customer of this device - I have no other connections with Summerlands apart from my voluntary help with the Shay.
Cheers
Ken Wright
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| 01 Oct 2009 07:05 AM |
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I installed the Chuffer in my Ruby with good results. A bit more hiss than I would like, but a keeper. I also tried a Chuffer in my Accucraft C-21. It has some improvement in chuff but even more hiss than the Ruby. I’m going to fiddle a bit to see if I can get more bass sound.
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| 01 Oct 2009 07:35 AM |
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I've installed the Chuffer in an Accucraft Earl. Very easy install.
There's a noticeable (although not dramatic) difference in sound when running the engine on rollers, I'm certain that would be more apparent on a track with a load on the engine. Nice side effect was that the exhaust was more visible. |
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| 01 Oct 2009 01:36 PM |
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You probably won't hear much chuff running on rollers, but when you run on a grade, the chuff sound is much better. I just ran my C-21 on 4% to 8% grades and the sound is quite good. As I reported before is has quite a hiss with the chuff sound, but still pretty good.
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| 01 Oct 2009 07:38 PM |
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ran both a Billy and Wrekin today. both were weak when running light. put 11 cars behind them and they both "talked"' now to save for more chuff pipes
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| 01 Oct 2009 10:03 PM |
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Hello guys, Have you heard of the Bark Box chuffer? They have great volume, DEEP BASS TONE CHUFF,NOT A HIGH PITCHED SCRATCHY SOUND, and instead of shooting steam oil and water out of the stack all over your loco's paint, it actualy burns the residual oil in the unit, and the water just turns to steam ( more smoke out the stack ).And they have ZERO restrictions or back pressure in the exhaust. Yes I'm pushing the whole BARK BOX speil again because I believe these things are the greatest things since the WELTYK'S WHISTLES.By the way, I think they complement each other GREATLY on a loco.STOP DEPRIVING YOURSELVES,  If you want your loco to sound like it should, get one, you'll be glad you did. Chris Sortina |
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| 02 Oct 2009 06:16 AM |
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Dear All,
My understanding was that this portion of the web site was supposed to be free of advertising.
Comparisons between products by end-users is a different matter. I welcome discussions of that type.
Was I incorrect?
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| 02 Oct 2009 06:36 AM |
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I did try the Bark Box, but because my C-21 cylinders had been bored-out to increase their size, it didn't work for me. Apparently they have to design the size of the Bark Box for specific loco cylinder sizes (so I was told). I'm going to keep trying by modifying the Chuffer by lengthing the blast tube section. I'll get back on that.
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